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i think about indo alot and am curious as to peoples experiences there in the ocean and on land
If you keep your nose clean there its heaven on earth,if not it can be the opposite.
Have you been to heaven drgl33t ?
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Only been there once as i kept putting it off cause i didnt think i surfed well enough to go, Got there and struggled a bit to get waves off the pack at ulus first few days as my mate and i tend to rarely surf with crowds, but then we learnt pretty fast how to work the system, but its a fight to get waves thats for sure makes stent on a crowded day look like a friendly tea party amoung friends. - worst behaved in the water were the old aussies and euros, indos were pretty cool if you talked to them
Got to surf with josh kerr and jordy and watch rob marchado surf too which was pretty sweet they surf so much better in person than you think, and the first two were pretty friendly and good guys too in the water.
Got to surf 2-3time a day most the time we were there in everything from double over head+ reef to 1-2ft fun beachys and pretty much every combo inbetween surfed with 100+ guys in water some days and other days 2-3
Land was fairly sweet, there are hawkers that bug you fairly constantly but cant blame them just trying to make a dollar to feed their family. "Suda punya" was the best deterrent, Didnt get into any hassle with locals or others tho only went out drinking twice in the 6 weeks we were there.
But yeah i loved it going back this year for 2months with my girl.
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Chairman of the sub 1000
ummmm probably not jelly you will have to be a little less vague mate 
yeah im the same jabes i dont think i surf good enough to go to stent with no one out let alone surf at ulus with a crowd but i feel confident in small (just overhead) but powerful/hollow waves just not crash hot at big drops
surf steppies enough and you will be drg...
i would say go, i wished id just gone earlier there are heaps of user friendly waves - changuu, medewi, balian then the beaches kuta reef/ airports etc
you will prob have days you wish you hadnt paddled out, and others that are etched into your mind as you caught something better than you ever thought you were capable of.
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Chairman of the sub 1000
Go. For the experience if nothing else.
I came closest to drowning there 10 years ago by making a farking terrible call but have been back 6 times. As per Jabes, theres a ton of differnt lineups of varying skill levels and if you are keen for earlies, you get a much nicer experience, good vibe and plenty of waves. Don't go out at Bingin at 4-6ft with 20 locals and a heap of aussies at 11am, you won't get a lookin unless you're a total ripper.
The land is very much like the surf. The further away from tourist land you go, the mellower the place is. Go to Menjangan, Agung, Amed etc - all easy trips but a totally different vibe. Sad to see people coming back from Indo giving out about the "local" indonesians they met on Jalan Legian who were hassely etc.
Sounds like you should just go. How much cash would you need for 3 months on the cheap?
Originally posted by: downsouth
Go. For the experience if nothing else.
I came closest to drowning there 10 years ago by making a farking terrible call but have been back 6 times. As per Jabes, theres a ton of differnt lineups of varying skill levels and if you are keen for earlies, you get a much nicer experience, good vibe and plenty of waves. Don't go out at Bingin at 4-6ft with 20 locals and a heap of aussies at 11am, you won't get a lookin unless you're a total ripper.
The land is very much like the surf. The further away from tourist land you go, the mellower the place is. Go to Menjangan, Agung, Amed etc - all easy trips but a totally different vibe. Sad to see people coming back from Indo giving out about the "local" indonesians they met on Jalan Legian who were hassely etc.
yeah i was the same should have realized that there was a reason that one one was out at what looked to be perfect ulus, spent 4 hours dodging sets trying to pick up some smaller ones waiting for the tide to drop enough to go in
we got bingin at 4-6 with only 9 guys out after machardo came in that was awesome never saw a crowd that small there again. pumping but a bit scary too
this was after the crowd built and we went in
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Chairman of the sub 1000
yeah dont think i would be paddling out in that
yeah the ulus surf was alot bigger than that 
but still alive so cant complain. Balian was one of my favourites just so fun and rippable with limited consequences
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Chairman of the sub 1000
*edited 30 Jan 2012 18:12
^^^^ Centres Gisborne looks just like that often and you dont have to spend lots of kiwi $ to get there.
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
mate was in indo a month ago. said there have been about 4 sharks at balian this year. one was while he was out surfing. its usually quite a brown wave isn't it?
looks like heaps of fun though.
Hey Dragl33t. I went there 18 months after my last surf a few years ago. I had fallen in love and moved to Denmark. We lived in a surfless country and then Snowboarded for 6 months in Norway. I eventually got so surf depressed I walked out on my engagement and caught a one way ticket home via Bali.
The first 2 days I was on the terps 24/7 and shagged an english chick, an irish girl and hooked up with a future american fbi agent. I hadn't surfed for 18 months and second wave got slotted and came out. This was at the beach breaks on sanur side.
3rd night I saved 2 girls from a balinese gang at a nightclub but in the process had my credit card lifted, in the space of 2 hours the next morning they had spent 1.5K.
I met a dutch guy who live in Aussie 6 months of the year and Bali the other. He reminded me of a mafia style godfather, turns out he was and even used me as muscle one day and I had no idea. (long story, quite funny) finished with a balinese massage and shower.
Avoided bali belly until the plane ride home thank god for bloackers.
I would totally recommend you do it. If you set yourself up a good swimming program just to give yourself confidence you will have great waves. But honestly you will have an adventure. I loved it and can't wait to go back and do it properly, either boat or stay at Telos Islannd or Kandui. The mission I want to do is the Maldives.
there is always sharks, they get a bit nippy at balian but they arent big. brown after the rain. round balian is a good place to get some big wave riding practice where you can paddle out without getting your hair wet.
go on drgleet a grand a month and you will live like a king. keep out of trouble and you might never come home
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Better to sleep in an uncomfortable bed free, than a comfortable bed unfree.
I want to hear that story Boss
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Better to sleep in an uncomfortable bed free, than a comfortable bed unfree.
On another trip to fiji when I was 21. I met 3 guys at the airport in Auckland. 1 had worked with one all winter at Turoa but the other 2 I had only met at a party. Here I was on my first trip surfing overseas heading for Fiji with 3 strangers at the time. I had trained my butt off to help with surf fitness and hold downs. I went sober for all of summer to save the money for the flights, picked apples in the bay for spending money. I had $750 to last me 3 weeks in Fiji. I made it with enough money for departure tax and an ice cream for my last meal and we pitched tents at the airport on the last night in Fiji.
1st surf was Wilkes at 2-3 foot fun. nice way to start. 2nd day we rocked up to an empty lineup at Namotu Island and it looked like a perfect 4 foot. I was first out and paddled straight to the take off zone. 3 boats rocked up and they all waited to see what the waves looked like. The first set rolled in and I stroked in deeper turned and paddled (nb before this point I hadn't really surfed much over solid 4 foot.) As I paddled I started to stroke harder as the wave was bigger then I thought. As i started to get to my feet I soon realised I was actually paddling into the biggest wave of my life. At this point everything slowed down. Halfway down the drop I was thinking I have never been so fast on my board, as I pressured the rail for the bottom turn I could feel my board start skipping. I tried to dig harder get solid and then I looked up at where I wanted to go, and up and up and it was towering above me, then... my board was gone and I was falling backwards thinking OH SH*T. I was pushed up and all of a sudden I popped up. For the size of the wave it was the softest wipe out I had ever taken. I thought that was wicked, then I turned and saw an 8 foot wave explode on the reef. I just swam to the bottom and when I cam eup my new 6 foot leggie was dragging me back 100m and was twice the size. I paddled back round and all the boats were hooting at me and reaching for boards. One of the last surfs before the Hui claimed Namotu as a private break. To be contnued if you want to read more just say so...
Originally posted by: Pipe Fins
*edited 30 Jan 2012 18:12
^^^^ Centres Gisborne looks just like that often and you dont have to spend lots of kiwi $ to get there.
yeah but your not surfing in boardies and you dont go to bali to surf balian exclusively also centers doesnt really handle the size but sure if you dont like to travel!
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Chairman of the sub 1000
Dutch Mafia in Bali. I met Bali Bill at a hotel called Serangin I think. They got at $10us a night but I had my own room above the pool and bar, bad choice. Bill owned a construction business in Melbourne, (1st sign) he was a good old bas**d and liked young backpacker girls (2nd sign). He shouted us beer and showed us the best places to eat (happened to be the ones he had funded for the locals to open) 3rd sign. There was this aussie surfer called Chris. Real top dude spent the last 7 seasons in bali and new the ropes, also new all the kiwi crew as he spent a ton of time at dessert point. Chris hung out with Bill actually like father and son. One day Chris came and asked me to join him and bill for the day. He said bill liked me and wanted to show me his bali. Fearing it maybe a setup for my moari butt, I threw caution to the wind and took off on a most excellent adventure with bill and chris. We walked to a shopping mall type area like a coutyard with mokeys and a large round wooden outdoor table. Bill sat down and chris pulled a chair out for me next to bill, then chris sat on the otherside of bill. Bill said welcome to my office, I laughed and he said no serious this is where it all happens. I was quite blank being just a young guy from Wanganui. All the people from the shops popped out one by one and said hello to bill and chris and then I was introduced. It was not a place that you would find tourist but more locals. A kid of 5 came out and asked bill if he needed anything, and Bill said 3 beers. The boy ran off to a laundramat and came back with 3 beers. we talked and laughed and had a great relaxing start. Then 6 balinese turned up and sat at the table, Only one spoke and shook hands with Bill. The others eye balled me and chris and then raised their eyebrows up at us. Bill ordered 3 more beers and I sat there silent (freaking out) but trying to look staunch. Then Bill started negotitaing something talking in millions and mentioning laptops and stuff. The spoke part balanese part English. I just concentrated on looking staunch. The deal was done hadns shook and they left. Bill was stoked and said ok boys the works done time to relax. We went into one of the shops and 3 girls came out and the boys started stripping. I was like, what the F. Next thing I was getting a sponge shower and then a massage. Afterwards Chris and I were having a beer and i said, what just happened, I felt like muscle for the mafia. He said, well you were, Bali bill has his fingers in all kinds of stuff and these boys owed him. He wanted some help and thought you would be perfect and you were. He just scored 6 laptops for $1K nz. After that I felt slightly taller and slightly wider and all the balinese stopped hawking me. Shivers that was 10 years ago this year, how life has changed.
Originally posted by: Pipe Fins
*edited 30 Jan 2012 18:12
^^^^ Centres Gisborne looks just like that often and you dont have to spend lots of kiwi $ to get there.
Not sure if your first name is John and if you are who I think you are, but if so it would explain how you could say something like that. After having lived in Gis for more than 6 years and more than half of that living at Northern Mak, let me reassure that the only thing in common between the waves at Centre and Ulu's is that they are both wet ....and that's it. You could not even compare inside island at 8ft to that.
*edited 30 Jan 2012 19:55
^ Dont want John's name dragged in mud...
His name is Guy, he has 1/25th of Maori blood and I quote from the horses mouth in regards to his ability in the water " I am better than you, or anyone you know"
thoroughly enjoying these tales Boss
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Better to sleep in an uncomfortable bed free, than a comfortable bed unfree.
Originally posted by: ThePitOriginally posted by: Pipe Fins
*edited 30 Jan 2012 18:12
^^^^ Centres Gisborne looks just like that often and you dont have to spend lots of kiwi $ to get there.
Haha inside island hasnt gone a true 8' for more years then I can remember haha.you'er just a blow in who hasnt been around here long enough to even have seen a good swell at outsides yet.
Oh and I can say something like that,it fuc#s people up a bit but gest the logo out there so I dont care.
man
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
*edited 30 Jan 2012 20:53
Originally posted by: toaster
thoroughly enjoying these tales Boss
Yes boss thanks for the effort in writing that,gives us something interesting to read instead of all the hate on Pipe Fins.
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
Went to Indo for the first time with 5 mates when we were 20, had a hell trip lot's of drinking, surfing, rooting and laughs (well maybe not much rooting)
Broke my board ,first wave of the trip...
And that was only 2ft Ulu's.
We were pretty green ,never surfed on proper reefs just classic Kiwi pirates on our first adventure. Just Bali for the first 2 weeks,,just nice little waves in between the hangovers and late nighters and the odd Shazza the token hairdresser from the Goldie..
3rd week we went to Lombok, got some slightly bigger waves on a sick right point just us boys out, 4th week in we paid up front $250 US each for what was going to be the highlight of our trip "the boattrip" day of the boattrip our captain turned up sorry boys but the boats broken down... But I will take you over to Sumbawa and my 1st mate will bring the boat over tomorrow when it's fixed...
Never saw that boat or any change from the $250 but we scored yoyo's cranking and almost got scarreef
Sorry got a new iPad and it's a tight keyboard...
Anyway he took our money and ran
Last 2 weeks we spent out at Lakey peak and scored the waves of our life's proper pits.
A real eye opener for me last had me going back for the next 10 years on and off.
I had a life changing Moment a couple of surfs in at lakey's was sort of hanging on the shoulder watching some average joes getting hell pity's, When it suddenly dawned on me that if they could do it so could I... Been getting pits ever since
Wow I found that ^^^^^ a good read too,WTF
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
Ha Battery, I have had a few life changing moments, but one like yours was taken off on a fijian beachbreak on a 4-5 foot wave. I had been amping and charging and feeling the moment when this wave came through. I turned and paddled. I was standing up as I went straight through the pack of my mates all scrambling to get over it. One was yelling go and another just goign oh rik, I just screamed Closeout barrel and pulled in. Only it didn't shut down at the end and made a sucking sound like a bath tub of water going down the plug hole. I could see the end of the barrel moving further away from me so I gave a big pump and then tucked my self in tight and clasped my hands like I was praying and aimed them for the opening. Nek-minit I was standing looking back at the peak and the boys, they were all hooting and I help my hands to my head trying to hold my blown mind together. I sat on the beach for 10 mins gathering my thoughts and then never looked back, new moto deeper, longer, hollower.
thats roys motto too only he applies it to surfboards
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Chairman of the sub 1000
deeper, longer, hollower.
All you need is to do it ?
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
Originally posted by: Pipe FinsOriginally posted by: ThePitOriginally posted by: Pipe Fins
*edited 30 Jan 2012 18:12
^^^^ Centres Gisborne looks just like that often and you dont have to spend lots of kiwi $ to get there.
Haha inside island hasnt gone a true 8' for more years then I can remember haha.you'er just a blow in who hasnt been around here long enough to even have seen a good swell at outsides yet.
Oh and I can say something like that,it fuc#s people up a bit but gest the logo out there so I dont care.
Can't remember?
Well you are quoted in the Gissy Herald on September 4th 2009 as saying "“I’ve been at the island at triple overhead and they’re great — the secret is the diameter.”
So which bit can't you remember?
And there's no hate bud, its just your original post about comparing Centre to Ulu's slightly amusing.
*edited 30 Jan 2012 21:54
There you ^^ were talking about inside island when in that paper I was talking about outside island ,So whatsit to be than.BTW,tripple over head is not all that big bro.
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
Missed the scar reef story...
Siting at the super suck losmen when our captain turns up finally 3 days in to ou boattrip...
It's about one and half hours before the sun goes down and he's drunk yelling come on boy's Scar reef will be on, we grab our boards and run down to a little dingy he's sorted of course it doesn't start. By now the lads with the shorter fuses are about to punch our captain out.
Then it starts we all jump in and power out towards the almost setting sun,
Swell has picked up to a solid 4-5 fats we about to thru the reef pass , then the boat craps out again, we start drifting towards the waves so we pull up the wooden slat seats and start paddling... All the way to the beach...
The captain must have spent our money on cheap whiskey as he gave us a case of the stuff before he disappeared ,never to been seen again
Needless to say we drank most of it....
Originally posted by: Battery
*edited 30 Jan 2012 19:55
^ Dont want John's name dragged in mud...
His name is Guy, he has 1/25th of Maori blood and I quote from the horses mouth in regards to his ability in the water " I am better than you, or anyone you know"
some impressive "research" battery
just a good memory Allan
Originally posted by: drgl33t
ummmm probably not jelly you will have to be a little less vague mate
vague is good for indo drg..
as the stories start to grow you will see the dark side
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Originally posted by: Jabes
yeah the ulus surf was alot bigger than that
but still alive so cant complain. Balian was one of my favourites just so fun and rippable with limited consequences
fat and slow ahhh jaba,just the way you like it .
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Originally posted by: ThePitOriginally posted by: Pipe Fins
*edited 30 Jan 2012 18:12
^^^^ Centres Gisborne looks just like that often and you dont have to spend lots of kiwi $ to get there.
So after sleeping on it I think you are a hater of Pipe Fins,why?
I was talking about those pics put up on this thread by Jabby,not any other day at ulu's Fuc# knuckle.
Smally has it right when he said " fat and slow ahhh jaba,just the way you like it" .We are talking about those pic's,get it yet.Sharpen up dude.
I was paddling out whales ledge reef area early 2000 with a friend just as the swell from cyclone Waka started to hit.It was 2' as we walked from the car as we paddled out he said "fuc# this is like paddling out indo somewhere" by the time we got out back it was 4" and within 15 minutes it had jacked up to 8/9foot.Sick waves and very cool to see the swell rise so fast.
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
Originally posted by: Pipe Fins
*edited 30 Jan 2012 21:54
There you ^^ were talking about inside island when in that paper I was talking about outside island ,So whatsit to be than.BTW,tripple over head is not all that big bro.
Triple over head is pretty big in my books. Isn't double overhead like 5-6 foot, meaning triple is 8-10. I haven't even seen a surfable 8-10 in NZ for awhile
yeah those pics are crap for indo
Originally posted by: Pipe FinsOriginally posted by: ThePitOriginally posted by: Pipe Fins
*edited 30 Jan 2012 18:12
^^^^ Centres Gisborne looks just like that often and you dont have to spend lots of kiwi $ to get there.
So after sleeping on it I think you are a hater of Pipe Fins,why?
I was talking about those pics put up on this thread by Jabby,not any other day at ulu's Fuc# knuckle.
Smally has it right when he said " fat and slow ahhh jaba,just the way you like it" .We are talking about those pic's,get it yet.Sharpen up dude.
I was paddling out whales ledge reef area early 2000 with a friend just as the swell from cyclone Waka started to hit.It was 2' as we walked from the car as we paddled out he said "fuc# this is like paddling out indo somewhere" by the time we got out back it was 4" and within 15 minutes it had jacked up to 8/9foot.Sick waves and very cool to see the swell rise so fast.
yeah? try cyclone ivy, 3 to 10 foot in 30 minutes.
Originally posted by: The BossOriginally posted by: Pipe Fins
*edited 30 Jan 2012 21:54
There you ^^ were talking about inside island when in that paper I was talking about outside island ,So whatsit to be than.BTW,tripple over head is not all that big bro.
Triple over head is pretty big in my books. Isn't double overhead like 5-6 foot, meaning triple is 8-10. I haven't even seen a surfable 8-10 in NZ for awhile
We wait with fingers crossed bro
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
Originally posted by: bionic chronic
yeah those pics are crap for indo
Try telling that to pity.
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Pipe Fins.New Zealand best,Since 2009.
whole point of indo is the barrels of doom
Originally posted by: The Boss
Dutch Mafia in Bali. I met Bali Bill at a hotel called Serangin I think. They got at $10us a night but I had my own room above the pool and bar, bad choice. Bill owned a construction business in Melbourne, (1st sign) he was a good old bas**d and liked young backpacker girls (2nd sign). He shouted us beer and showed us the best places to eat (happened to be the ones he had funded for the locals to open) 3rd sign. There was this aussie surfer called Chris. Real top dude spent the last 7 seasons in bali and new the ropes, also new all the kiwi crew as he spent a ton of time at dessert point. Chris hung out with Bill actually like father and son. One day Chris came and asked me to join him and bill for the day. He said bill liked me and wanted to show me his bali. Fearing it maybe a setup for my moari butt, I threw caution to the wind and took off on a most excellent adventure with bill and chris. We walked to a shopping mall type area like a coutyard with mokeys and a large round wooden outdoor table. Bill sat down and chris pulled a chair out for me next to bill, then chris sat on the otherside of bill. Bill said welcome to my office, I laughed and he said no serious this is where it all happens. I was quite blank being just a young guy from Wanganui. All the people from the shops popped out one by one and said hello to bill and chris and then I was introduced. It was not a place that you would find tourist but more locals. A kid of 5 came out and asked bill if he needed anything, and Bill said 3 beers. The boy ran off to a laundramat and came back with 3 beers. we talked and laughed and had a great relaxing start. Then 6 balinese turned up and sat at the table, Only one spoke and shook hands with Bill. The others eye balled me and chris and then raised their eyebrows up at us. Bill ordered 3 more beers and I sat there silent (freaking out) but trying to look staunch. Then Bill started negotitaing something talking in millions and mentioning laptops and stuff. The spoke part balanese part English. I just concentrated on looking staunch. The deal was done hadns shook and they left. Bill was stoked and said ok boys the works done time to relax. We went into one of the shops and 3 girls came out and the boys started stripping. I was like, what the F. Next thing I was getting a sponge shower and then a massage. Afterwards Chris and I were having a beer and i said, what just happened, I felt like muscle for the mafia. He said, well you were, Bali bill has his fingers in all kinds of stuff and these boys owed him. He wanted some help and thought you would be perfect and you were. He just scored 6 laptops for $1K nz. After that I felt slightly taller and slightly wider and all the balinese stopped hawking me. Shivers that was 10 years ago this year, how life has changed.
people will read your stories if you had a paragraph or two. dont you read or some sh1t?
yeah the part about drg not wanting heavy waves of death was all part of the pics of balian BC to show its not all heavy barrels 
as with the one pic of bingin where he said he wasnt keen for that sort of wave
As i said balian is a fun rippable wave there isnt much of a barrel, but if you dont want that kind of wave then its a good option.
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Chairman of the sub 1000
Originally posted by: bionic chronic
whole point of indo is the barrels of doom
do you know this from experience?
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Chairman of the sub 1000
yes, and by your pictures you dont
i can post barrel photos but ive got nothing to prove, i know how much of a pu5sy you were at avana
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Chairman of the sub 1000
Balian has a good barrel on the right hander. Also a pretty hollow right shore break to the right (not in pic). The good thing about balian is that it never gets too big it just breaks further and further out to sea. Does get packed by day trippers though. Better to stay there a few days and surf early and late. Pretty much same for anywhere in bali. I got ulus everyday with hardly anyone out at 6 in the morning.
Surfing it by yourself can be a bit intense when youre not use to coral but I got by fine. You also don't have anyone else to go through it with.
Medewi is about the most perfect learner wave ever apart from the rocks and slightly odd sections. Still a really fun wave that does have step sections.
My biggest piece of advice if you think it's going to be solid is to watch the surf for a good 15 minutes before paddling out so you know exactly what your dealing with. Also checking the surf reports is good. Cause those reefs can change size a lot of the tides.
I went out at balangan thinking it was around 3-5ft. Turned out they weren't the set waves and got myself stuck out the back in really solid waves. Well over 6ft and pretty much close outs. Or certainly running off faster than I could surf. Ended up taking the beating of my life, even though I made the drop and bottom turn, cutting my foot on the reef (not too badly) and being so thankful to make it back to shore. It's kinda funny though you look back on those memories fondly even though it was probably the most scared i've ever been.
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Originally posted by: Jabes
i can post barrel photos but ive got nothing to prove, i know how much of a pu5sy you were at avana
No you don't as avava wasn't working when I was there. You sound rattled jabes.
cheers fellaz great stories. i dont really care about getting pitted i just want to surf warm, glassy waves day in day out and not think fercrissakes why am i getting into a wet wetty at 6 a.m to surf lumpy kaupok rivermouth in the middle of winter 
Originally posted by: Jabes
i can post barrel photos but ive got nothing to prove, i know how much of a pu5sy you were at avana
Nothing to prove...
I disagree
Originally posted by: BatteryOriginally posted by: Jabes
i can post barrel photos but ive got nothing to prove, i know how much of a pu5sy you were at avana
Nothing to prove...
don't remember making any claims batt? I know I surf better than some people worse than others just like pretty much everyone else in the world
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Chairman of the sub 1000
I don't recall Jabes ever claiming to be a ripper, and seems at times to down play his ability...
^^ Speaking of something to prove...
is that you battery^ or an imposter?
Originally posted by: drgl33t
cheers fellaz great stories. i dont really care about getting pitted i just want to surf warm, glassy waves day in day out and not think fercrissakes why am i getting into a wet wetty at 6 a.m to surf lumpy kaupok rivermouth in the middle of winter
So whats the story drg? Are you gonna go?
He fcuken better, I spent 15mins of my life typing up my virgin Indo trip
Originally posted by: bionic chronic
is that you battery^ or an imposter?
