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But what can one do anyways is my point. Even being mortgage free, self-sufficient isn't enough, because unless I can pay my rates to the council with cold folding cash, I'd still lose it all anyways, no?
Originally posted by: toasteryou know all this how?
using charities to fund bank loans? Afghanistan? how much of what is donated goes to the people, bugger all. most of the items taken to haiti are surplus yank products.
I admire them for recycling.
*edited 22 Jan 2010 10:18
Originally posted by: Roy_Stewartthey can and they were roy. I knew youd like the bit about working with aliens since the 30s to create a new superrace. straight from the insane shapeshifting lizard people school of thought.Those sort of drugs should never be encouraged. even poor seeka was a bit overwhelmed by his craziness.Originally posted by: brighton_pumps
*edited 22 Jan 2010 00:56
thats just what ive been doing seeka, and i find stuff like this:
blablabla im a crackhead hippy
oh dear.
Whatever one thinks of the ideas presented by the person you quoted they cannot be refuted simply by saying " Oh Dear "
You often seem to think that truth is a certain style or a source, that's the mistake which keeps you in ignorance.
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as for the truth roy, any olo developments?
I didn't say that I liked what was written or not, I merely pointed out that saying "oh Dear" as some kind of refutation is insufficient.
On a macro scale your tactic of serching for a poor argument or one which is easy to ridicule in order to try and take the proposition down is dishonest, and proves nothing.
Sean Davey has some more pictures ( I've seen them) but won't release them as he's saving them for magazine articles.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: dumbbell
But what can one do anyways is my point. Even being mortgage free, self-sufficient isn't enough, because unless I can pay my rates to the council with cold folding cash, I'd still lose it all anyways, no?
There are many scenarios whereby one can lose a freehold property, for example.
1) Maori occupation. . . police won't help with that one and the trend has been started
2) Via rates. . . which will soon be as high as rent if they keep it up and will soon be paid to Maori while they are exempt on their own land
3) Confiscation via Martial law for growing one's own vegetables or medicinal herbs 'illegally'. . thinking or writing in ways which are deemed to be a threat to security.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
*edited 22 Jan 2010 10:46
they can and they were roy.
Sorry but you can't refute a statement using a rolleye emoticon or by typing 'Oh Dear'
In my opinion you have sided with the evil doers because you feel safer that way, you think that by trying to be one of them you are more secure. This is an illusion for which you have sacrificed all mental discrimination and logic. . . it's a form of lntellectual and moral suicide and it won't make a jot of difference, as the cutoff level for the eugenecists is the bottom 90% of the population on their perceived hierarchy, and you are definitely below that.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: Roy_Stewartdidnt have to search for a poor argument. just type HAARP in a search engine and you will find hundreds of crackpot analysis from armchair experts. Apologies i didnt show your learned friend more respect at 1am in the morning, but his story picks itself apart really. what a brave man revealing secret govt plans via the net when the fbi and cia are watching
I didn't say that I liked what was written or not, I merely pointed out that saying "oh Dear" as some kind of refutation is insufficient.
On a macro scale your tactic of serching for a poor argument or one which is easy to ridicule in order to try and take the proposition down is dishonest, and proves nothing.
Sean Davey has some more pictures ( I've seen them) but won't release them as he's saving them for magazine articles.
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thing is bp, the crazy 14 yr bad speller(lol jabes) did have some of his info correct. some of it sounded totally off the wall..and lets face it, some thought the idea of 911 being an inside job was totally off the wall but now more info has come to light it no longer sounds like such a crazy thing. false flag operations have been happening for decades. the shock and awe of such happenings are a way to appeal the populations vulnerability and they become so traumatized that at such an attack that they don't even want to begin to think it was anything other than terrorists. our own leader has been interviewed and said quite clearly that the attackers of 911 used explosives and brought them all into the usa via afghanistan.. not to mention that both nist and the 911 commission(that should be 911 omission) deny's that any explosives were used. Rodriguez was one of the last eye witness's at TT's and he states categorically that there were explosions before the plane hit..he was interviewed by 911 omission and yet in their report there was no mention of him at all. many questions have been asked by relatives of victims and they get stonewalled...why is this? why won't these people give answers? what are they hiding? why has nist denied the existence of molten steel at wtc7 when there are many NYFD guys who saw it?..hell, we all saw it, it was on the news for weeks...why has nist denied there ever was molten steel? surely if they had done investigations correctly then molten steel being an important part of the evidence of the crime scene should have been included in their report? when offered evidence of molten steel they refused to even accept the info...it's just far too dodgy...i know polls are not always 100% accurate but 66% of NYers want independent investigations into those attacks..thats over 10 million people..surely they can't all be wrong?..and that just NY. whiustleblowers speak out and suddenly they are found dead...and no investigations take place into why they died..thats not normal. heck, even a son of a victim started asking questions and was told to keep quiet..he was later found dead in his home..a young guy, dies mysteriously and no report into why?
Originally posted by: dumbbell
But,..
you can do something db, we all can,even if it's a small thing like talking about it and spreading the word. the more people who are willing to stand up and be counted the better,silence only drives the problem.
the powers that be know this. complacency is what the hope for.
imagine what it would be like if everyone took a day of work and went to the beehive and said 'fuk you, we're not putting up with this sh1t anymore'..what could they do?..nothing. we have become a submissive society willing to accept anything and everything our leaders tell us.why do most of us sit back and just accept? why is that the govt(who work for us) are no longer accountable to us and treat us like we work for them?
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Politics schmolitics.
I suggest we all get back on topic - refer to the title of this thread.
Okay, random topics. I like plucking my nose-hairs while at my desk, and making my eyes water.
*edited 22 Jan 2010 11:31
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: dumbbell
But what can one do anyways is my point. Even being mortgage free, self-sufficient isn't enough, because unless I can pay my rates to the council with cold folding cash, I'd still lose it all anyways, no?
There are many scenarios whereby one can lose a freehold property, for example.
1) Maori occupation. . . police won't help with that one and the trend has been started
2) Via rates. . . which will soon be as high as rent if they keep it up and will soon be paid to Maori while they are exempt on their own land
3) Confiscation via Martial law for growing one's own vegetables or medicinal herbs 'illegally'. . thinking or writing in ways which are deemed to be a threat to security.
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4) The Public Works Act... ask the Waterview residents about that one.
Property rights nithis country have become so eroded by local and central government that it is a joke...then you have w@nker town planners, and council arborists to deal with...... and who pays for these show poines??.... you and me.
Originally posted by: dumbbell
Okay, random topics. I like plucking my nose-hairs while at my desk, and making my eyes water.
A self inlicted punch in the face will have the same effect...try it
*edited 22 Jan 2010 11:42
just gunna back up what i said up there ^^
jk talks about explosives at 911..
http://tinyurl.com/ydtjqmg [tinyurl.com]
and this lying bastard...
http://tinyurl.com/ycedjob [tinyurl.com]
http://tinyurl.com/ydj3agx [tinyurl.com]
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Originally posted by: 2020
4) The Public Works Act... ask the Waterview residents about that one.
Property rights nithis country have become so eroded by local and central government that it is a joke...then you have w@nker town planners, and council arborists to deal with...... and who pays for these show poines??.... you and me.
another example of the govt bodies doing whatever they want, where ever they want, when ever they want.
submit to these power mongers at your own peril.
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very strange weather over aussie..el nina?, la nina?, el tora?, la boxxix?
http://tinyurl.com/yha9aye [tinyurl.com]
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i think it's a problem of unity, where's the group, everyone, is kind of sitting waiting wondering what to do next, and at what concequence, at what gain if its just one person, another thing it's to soon for a group to form, if it's gonna form it's gotta be like a tsunami. I'd be interesting to make an equation of how many people can see of what is really going on.
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Government is your Enemy. Always has been, that's why we started surfing in the first place.
Forget about earthquake machines, the US Govt, and menni lback hats controlling the weather.
The real consiracy that directly effects all of us is the erosion of property rights over the last 20 odd years..... you own it but now you have to go cap n hand to the powers than be to do anything with it...and while they are deciding if they will let you...you get to pay them...and whoever they think they need to employ...and then say no.
C*NTS!
...and now we are faced with a Land Tax as well.
we are getting f*cked in the ass and people are worried about earthquake machines and people controlling the weather???
the 911 theory is plausible to you seeka, but i recall oldschool picking huge holes right through it.I was far from convinced by your evidence. I saw planes hitting towers, you saw an explosives crew. you say the crackpot had some facts right and the rest rubbish, i see this as a problem. its like religion you cant just pick out the good bits, its all or nothing
I'm all for picking the good bits, BP!
*edited 22 Jan 2010 12:53
Originally posted by: brighton_pumps
the 911 theory is plausible to you seeka, but i recall oldschool picking huge holes right through it.I was far from convinced by your evidence. I saw planes hitting towers, you saw an explosives crew. you say the crackpot had some facts right and the rest rubbish, i see this as a problem. its like religion you cant just pick out the good bits, its all or nothing
fair enough, that was then, this is now. oldscool did quite a bit of referring to nist and their findings. now nist have made total coks of themselves and their lies have no been exposed. they denied molten steel was ever part of the evidence at the crime scene, then they did some dodgy calculations to explain the fall of those buildings and the latest is they admitted that the buildings fell at or close to free fall speed..free fall speed requires no resistance. we now have architects, engineers,scholars, mathmaticians, pilots, and relatives of those murdered wanting simple answers to simple questions....why don't they answer? what are they hiding?
i saw planes too..i never said i didn't see planes.but the big question is..were they the actual planes? the plane(757) that was supposed to have hit the pentagon(an impossible task given the evidence) wasn't even scheduled to fly that day.
if you like i can find the schedule and you can see for yourself. and before you ask "where's the plane? where's the passengers?..well your guess is as good as mine.
look at atta's passport that was 'found' on a NY street by a 'mystery' witness. they want us to believe that a passport which was inside a plane that hit a building, blew up and disintegrated in an avgas fireball somehow survived all that without a trace of damage and got blown out of the wreckage?..come on..that one is just too far fetched.
i have also seen masses of info that point directly to explosives being used as well as planes. like i said earlier..a key witness(who was given hero's awards) has testified he heard and witnessed explosions prior to the planes hitting...why did the '911 ommision' omit his testimony? why has the 911 omission excluded any evidence of explosives when our own leader jk has said there was explosives...wtf is going on?
people scoff at the idea of a NWO..yet every single us president since kennedy is on film talking about the agenda and plans of a NWO, clearly stating 'we will have our NWO'...and people like me get labeled paranoid?..we get chucked into the bucket of 'lizard shapeshifter' believers..not that i care, but it's an example of how we are made out to be insane crackpots...yet we are supposed to believe everything the authorities tell us? i ask you..who's the insane ones?
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and a tie between shore boys and random post grows ever closer....
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Originally posted by: brighton_pumps
the 911 theory is plausible to you seeka, but i recall oldschool picking huge holes right through it.
i also recall that the last bit of info i posted at oldscools request was ignored...pretty much summed it up.
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I think he just tired of going around in circles seeka. you dont get chucked into the same basket as the crackpots mate, you believe half there ideas. its like saying your a catholic because you go to church at easter and xmas. anyways im trying to stay open minded for you so will wait for more conclusive evidence
also going back to 9/11 are you saying bin laden worked with the govt on it? hence his tv stories claiming responsibility? is he really downstairs at the whitehouse while we think they search for him?
I'm finishing up work early to catch the last of those primo waves out here, fizz fizz fizzzzzzzz
Kat
out
go for it lil lurker...let us know how it went.
Originally posted by: brighton_pumps
I think he just tired of going around in circles seeka. you dont get chucked into the same basket as the crackpots mate, you believe half there ideas. its like saying your a catholic because you go to church at easter and xmas. anyways im trying to stay open minded for you so will wait for more conclusive evidence
yeah, that could have been it. oldscools debate did come to a sudden halt when he asked for evidence of thermite..which i provided. since then there has been evidence of thermite being found in the dust. now the dust is another interesting thing as the deniers say TT's fell due to 'pancaking'..seems fair enough till we think about it, if there was 'pancaking' then surely there would have been evidence of whole slabs of concrete floors stacked on top of each?...there wasn't..instead there was just rubble and dust. which leads to another question...seeing as it was a crime scene, how come so much of the evidence was cleaned up and sent away almost immediately?..bits of it are in a secure location..no one is allowed near it..why?
also..the 911 c-omission said there there was no flight recorders found in the rubble..yet there is a guy who worked on the clean up job who says he saw atleast one flight recorder being taken away...why say there was none when there was? whats being hidden?
Jesse Ventura gets to the nitty gritty., now before anyone rights off this colourful character, lets not forget that he is an american politician, retired professional wrestler, Navy(seal)UDT veteran.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WdKnrjlBw [youtube.com]
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Originally posted by: brighton_pumps
also going back to 9/11 are you saying bin laden worked with the govt on it? hence his tv stories claiming responsibility? is he really downstairs at the whitehouse while we think they search for him?
initially bin laden is recorded as saying he had nothing to do with it..every other terroist claims their jihad victories..why would bin laden not claim this one.
later on some dodgy film came out that said he now claims responsibilty?? ehh? why deny then claim?
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*edited 22 Jan 2010 16:23
another thing that came to mind was the flight recorders that the 911 omission said couldn't be found. 3000 people basically disintegrated when those towers fell(further proof of explosives), they found bits of human remains such as fragments of finger nails(for dna id's), well, they found tiny bits of finger nails but couldn't see bright orange tool box sized flight recorders?..sus.. 
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the question i have is where are these pancakes now?
hmmm i got a nice chuck of ostrich steak for dinner tonight mmmmm
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Chairman of the sub 1000
the other conspiracy i want answers too is where does my beer go i keep getting a new beer and then ive got none left it just doesnt make sence
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Chairman of the sub 1000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1oMtwmTaNQ [youtube.com]
Possibly the most entertaining and original music video I've seen.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
Originally posted by: Jabeshappy birthday jabes
the other conspiracy i want answers too is where does my beer go i keep getting a new beer and then ive got none left it just doesnt make sence
good clip Spud.
happy bday Jabes.
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XXIst sentry scribe
Google "earthquake lights"
There is a lot of disinformation out there in the form of truth mixed with lies with the writing skills of the aforementioned 14 year old. It's an old CIA tactic going back to the cold war.
Ignore your discriminatory facilities at your own peril.
Originally posted by: Jabes
the other conspiracy i want answers too is where does my beer go i keep getting a new beer and then ive got none left it just doesnt make sence
Also where do all the pens go?
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
The pen is mightier than the sword Mr Spud and they know this so they take the pens away and all we are left with is a sword. Then when push comes to shove, they have all the pens...
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www.finaltouch.co.nz Keeping your car shiny so that you can impress the ladies in the car park.
Originally posted by: Spudand the car keys?Originally posted by: Jabes
the other conspiracy i want answers too is where does my beer go i keep getting a new beer and then ive got none left it just doesnt make sence
Also where do all the pens go?
Originally posted by: Father Ted
The pen is mightier than the sword Mr Spud and they know this so they take the pens away and all we are left with is a sword. Then when push comes to shove, they have all the pens...
makes sense 2 me.
kinda like the bluntest pencil is better than the sharpest mind.
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Originally posted by: Spud
Also where do all the pens go?
I have them. And I also work for the government.
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Surf.co rark judge
can you shapeshift?
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XXIst sentry scribe
do you find flies and small bugs a delicacy?
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do you have a strong lisp?
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update..
In the light of the recent attempt to bring down a commercial aircraft by terrorists the English have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to a "Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588 when threatened by the Spanish Armada.
The Scots raised their threat level from "Pi$$ed Off" to "Let's get the Bastards" They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide". The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France’s white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability. It's not only the French who are on a heightened level of alert.
Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout loudly and excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."
The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose".
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Americans meanwhile and as usual are carrying out pre-emptive strikes, on all of their allies, just in case.
Southern Hemisphere...
New Zealand has also raised its security levels - from "baaa" to "BAAAA!". Due to continuing defence cutbacks (the airforce being a squadron of spotty teenagers flying paper aeroplanes and the navy some toy boats in the Prime Minister's bath), New Zealand only has one more level of escalation, which is "I hope Australia will come and rescue us".
Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to "She'll be right, mate". Three more escalation levels remain: 1"Crikey!', 2"I think we'll need to cancel the Bbq this weekend" and 3"The Bbq is cancelled".. So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.
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Originally posted by: Spud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1oMtwmTaNQ [youtube.com]
Possibly the most entertaining and original music video I've seen.
are you taking the puss.
Originally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Jabes
the other conspiracy i want answers too is where does my beer go i keep getting a new beer and then ive got none left it just doesnt make sence
Also where do all the pens go?
you too now that is strange.
jesse ventura ledgend watched it herd him ,he knows whats up doc.
Originally posted by: seeka
and a tie between shore boys and random post grows ever closer....
thats right +1more.
jelly, welcome to surf co, killed any sharks latey? Do u likebeing counted when u standup on polystyrene?
my couzzeys on the chatts catch them all the time ,dont up set them or they might just putt into your local
Originally posted by: seeka
update..
In the light of the recent attempt to bring down a commercial aircraft by terrorists the English have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to a "Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588 when threatened by the Spanish Armada.
The Scots raised their threat level from "Pi$$ed Off" to "Let's get the Bastards" They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide". The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France’s white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability. It's not only the French who are on a heightened level of alert.
Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout loudly and excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."
The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose".
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Americans meanwhile and as usual are carrying out pre-emptive strikes, on all of their allies, just in case.
Southern Hemisphere...
New Zealand has also raised its security levels - from "baaa" to "BAAAA!". Due to continuing defence cutbacks (the airforce being a squadron of spotty teenagers flying paper aeroplanes and the navy some toy boats in the Prime Minister's bath), New Zealand only has one more level of escalation, which is "I hope Australia will come and rescue us".
Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to "She'll be right, mate". Three more escalation levels remain: 1"Crikey!', 2"I think we'll need to cancel the Bbq this weekend" and 3"The Bbq is cancelled".. So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
old spanish navy like it.
south islanders are generally limp wristed shirtlifters, I think spud will back me up on this one
need a bit of back up do ya,spot maggot.
For the record B.C. can look after himself. Nevertheless in this case I must agree that South Islanders are on the whole prone to limp wristed shirt lifting.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
skirt lifting true .mainland nz .
dag lifting you mean
and now for a short musical interlude..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkeAzqhlkNk [youtube.com]
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Originally posted by: Spud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1oMtwmTaNQ [youtube.com]
Possibly the most entertaining and original music video I've seen.
You have got to be drinking the wee
if not i'm affixing the label
Limp wristed pillow biting fudge packer
to you spud packer
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
But seriously, I'm joking.
Originally posted by: ScootertrashOriginally posted by: Spud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1oMtwmTaNQ [youtube.com]
Possibly the most entertaining and original music video I've seen.
You have got to be drinking the wee
if not i'm affixing the label
Limp wristed pillow biting fudge packer
to you spud packer
Pillow biter ay? That's a good one. Duly noted.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.