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*edited 04 Dec 2009 16:15
Originally posted by: Freshie
Just heard an ad on the radio for wavebox, saying an exclusive preview coming soon....
Iv'e heard the ad as well... says there are 7 differnt wave types with a 2m RH Barrel to be had.
Big claim- be interesting to see how it goes
look,s like sumner is the place 2be today .sad statement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTqCwlQODxo [youtube.com]
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Government is your Enemy. Always has been, that's why we started surfing in the first place.
Truth is bad?
Have we always been at war with East Anglia as well?
Welcome to the new reality. The future is now.
Jesus, the reason for the cheesin'
The tilt of the earths axis is the reason for the season.
There you go you claim it as truth. Looking at one page i saw about three loop holes of unsubstantiated claims, Prayer = coincidence, disambiguity, (in short) While test have been done that healing convalences increase substantially when a person is prayed for, so wether it is gods doing or not should not be in the equation. I think it's more a peoples doing than any thing. But prayer is a workable method.
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Government is your Enemy. Always has been, that's why we started surfing in the first place.
I'm not claiming anything, the truth stands on its own merit, not the soft foundation of "some guy said so" or "I really really really really really really wanna believe".
Prayer is a workable method? Bullsh1t.
What you have done here is typical of the disingenuous arguments the religious use to cling to their precious and frankly ridiculous world view.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Peru_earthquake [en.wikipedia.org] ... "Seventeen people died when a church in the city of Ica collapsed and 70 were injured." ... where was your god here? He allowed 17 people to be killed in his own house! Either God doesn't exist or he doesn't give a crap. Same reason he doesn't give faith healers the power to heal amuputees.
When you realise why most grown adults don't actually believe in Santa, the tooth fairy Zeus or Poseidon you'll understand why some people don't believe in your god.
Actually, there is tons of proof that religion and praying is real, you just have to want to read it. "Scientific" people like you just don't want to acknowledge it. "Science" is no different than any other religion...
*edited 09 Dec 2009 12:32
gee's sir fer, everyone knows santa existed as saint nicolas.
as for zeus and poseiden, they exist too...i have seen them on facebook.
the old worn out question of 'why does God kill?' is obvious...he takes them to a better place., in actual fact he's doing them a favour.
amputees may be suffering a payback from a previous life..or they may be afflicted to learn something this time around.
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*edited 09 Dec 2009 12:59
Sir fer I don't have a god.I think your observation that "god" lets death and misfortune happen indiscriminantly is correct.
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Originally posted by: alkaline
Actually, there is tons of proof that religion and praying is real, you just have to want to read it. "Scientific" people like you just don't want to acknowledge it. "Science" is no different than any other religion...
HAHAHAHA! fvck you troll...I know where you live!!!
Originally posted by: seeka
*edited 09 Dec 2009 12:32
gee's sir fer, everyone knows santa existed as saint nicolas.
as for zeus and poseiden, they exist too...i have seen them on facebook.
the old worn out question of 'why does God kill?' is obvious...he takes them to a better place., in actual fact he's doing them a favour.
amputees may be suffering a payback from a previous life..or they may be afflicted to learn something this time around.
I'm talking about the literal modern day santa seeka, sorry for not clarifying. The idea that he takes them to a better place has no foundation. If that were the case then why do humans fear death and do their utmost to avoid it? That reasoning just doesn't stack up.
So *every single amputee* is suffering due to a former life? Jesus says in the bible
Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!
Doesn't get much simpler than that, even if you buy into reincarnation.
Originally posted by: sir fer
The idea that he takes them to a better place has no foundation. If that were the case then why do humans fear death and do their utmost to avoid it? That reasoning just doesn't stack up.
of course there is foundation...you just havn't discovered it yet.
fearing death is natural..as is the natural instinct for survival.
not everyone fears death though...me being one., along with billions of hindu's etc.
Originally posted by: sir fer
So *every single amputee* is suffering due to a former life? Jesus says in the bible...
i didn't say 'every single one'...
just out of interest, which bible is that from?
Originally posted by: sir fer
Doesn't get much simpler than that, even if you buy into reincarnation.
..and billions believe in reincarnation, with good reason too.
you only have to read the facts in a book by trutz hardo 'children who have lived before'. a book which proves children from all over the world have lived before.."the 3 yr old told her parents "i want to go home". when asked where her home was she said it was in the philippines. her parents were very surprised that she knew of this country, since they had never told her about it'
scientists such as ian stevenson from the university of virginia explains how many of these children's stories have been subjected to investigation, and their memories about their past lives invariably are confirmed in every detail.
heck, even my own children have said things that they couldn't possibly have known from their short time on earth...and from my experience, most children don't nor have any reason to lie about such things.
thing is sir fer, you will never believe until you have learnt..or had your own personal proof.
it doesn't get much simpler than that.
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*edited 09 Dec 2009 18:16
*edited 09 Dec 2009 18:12
of course there is foundation...you just havn't discovered it yet.
Either that or the foundation doesn't exist and your belief is just that and nothing more. I've been searching for 39 years and ain't found it yet. If it was there and god wished me to find it, I would have thought he would have made it a bit easier and obvious. The psyche is very powerful at keeping us in our personal delusion depending on the amount of emotional investment we have in a particular idea(l).
fearing death is natural..as is the natural instinct for survival.
Why would god instill this within us if there was somewhere better to go afterwards?
not everyone fears death though...me being one., along with billions of hindu's etc.
I don't think you can speak for all those people, what they profess and what they really think are usually 2 different things.
..and billions believe in reincarnation, with good reason too.
Billions? There are only ~6 billion on the earth.
WRT your children, you're assuming that they don't learn anything from sources other than you. My boy sings songs we never taught him because he learned them from someone *else*. You are also discounting their innate creativity.
scientists such as ian stevenson from the university of virginia explains how many of these children's stories have been subjected to investigation, and their memories about their past lives invariably are confirmed in every detail.
Confirmed in every detail? Did they have a time machine? Such an assertion is almost impossible to confirm.
thing is sir fer, you will never believe until you have learnt..or had your own personal proof.
thing is seeka, all personal proof should stand up under the light of impersonal scrutiny, otherwise it is anecdotal and subjective opinion at best, especially any conclusions from whatever phenomena may be under investigation. Doesn't get much simpler than that.
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*edited 09 Dec 2009 18:20
Originally posted by: sir fer
thing is seeka, all personal proof should stand up under the light of impersonal scrutiny, otherwise it is anecdotal and subjective opinion at best, especially any conclusions from whatever phenomena may be under investigation. Doesn't get much simpler than that.
That's not true actually.
The most absolute of all truths is that one exists, and that truth does not stand up to public scrutiny ( i.e. scrutiny from someone other than one's self )
The fact that one exists is known by direct apprehension, and cannot be proven by any scientific or logical means.
There are ways to knowledge which make scientific method and logical deduction look like stone age tools.
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Originally posted by: sir fer
Either that or the foundation doesn't exist and your belief is just that and nothing more. I've been searching for 39 years and ain't found it yet.
well, you have to agree that it's one or the other or something else.
i searched for over 39 yrs...
Originally posted by: sir fer
Why would god instill this within us if there was somewhere better to go afterwards?
who said he instilled anything? the way i understand it is we were given free will.
Originally posted by: sir fer
I don't think you can speak for all those people, what they profess and what they really think are usually 2 different things.
yet you spoke for them..
Originally posted by: sir fer
Billions? There are only ~6 billion on the earth.
'billions' infers more than 1 billion..of which there are atleast that many that have a religion which believes in reincarnation.
Originally posted by: sir fer
WRT your children, you're assuming that they don't learn anything from sources other than you. My boy sings songs we never taught him because he learned them from someone *else*. You are also discounting their innate creativity.
maybe..maybe not..
Originally posted by: sir fer
Confirmed in every detail? Did they have a time machine? Such an assertion is almost impossible to confirm..
'almost'....leaving room for the possible.
Originally posted by: sir fer
thing is seeka, all personal proof should stand up under the light of impersonal scrutiny, otherwise it is anecdotal and subjective opinion at best, especially any conclusions from whatever phenomena may be under investigation. Doesn't get much simpler than that.
what Roy said...
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check this..
this is a photo from the 2009 inauguration, in which you can see IN FOCUS The face of each individual in the crowd.
You can scan, double click and zoom to any section of the crowd... wait a few seconds... and the focus adjusts.
the picture was taken with a robotic camera at 1,474 megapixel. (295 times the standard 5 megapixel camera)
http://gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullscreen....6648c2b4b06233c [gigapan.org]
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Originally posted by: seeka
well, you have to agree that it's one or the other or something else.
Well d'uh!
who said he instilled anything? the way i understand it is we were given free will.
Well god created us with all our faculties and facilities did he not?
yet you spoke for them..
Did I really?I was a professed Catholic for years yet never fully embraced every idea that catholicism espoused. I think it likely that the same applies here.
'billions' infers more than 1 billion..of which there are at least that many that have a religion which believes in reincarnation.
At least they *say* they do and have probably never been exposed to any other culture.
maybe..maybe not..
I think that it is much more likely than the idea that they were spirited back to earth after dying to occupy new bodies and now have previous memories.
'almost'....leaving room for the possible.
Hahaha the theists "get out of jail card"
what Roy said...
There's something not quite right with that idea. I can't put my finger on it yet, especially the "stone age tools" comment.
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*edited 09 Dec 2009 21:57
Originally posted by: sir fer
There's something not quite right with that idea. I can't put my finger on it yet, especially the "stone age tools" comment.
The idea is correct, meditating upon it will take you into the higher mental plane and possibly beyond.
The bottom line is that each one of us knows that we exist, but cannot prove it to others.
Thus this most basic of all truths is only provable to one's self, and cannot be deduced by logic.
It is apparent via direct apprehension.
Thus the claim that every personal truth must be independently verifiable is false.
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*edited 10 Dec 2009 08:15
OK Roy, you continue to assert these things, but I'm still not buying it, especially when you start trotting out "higher mental planes and beyond".
If something is true, it is true regardless of any personal aspect or any mystical sounding mumbo jumbo that may be brought out as "evidence". I have had *many* mystical experiences in my life, but none that could be ascribed to anything more than the product of my own psyche.
continental airlines are bastards! pulled out my board and its got more dings in it than i got in the last 6 months in mexico
Originally posted by: sir ferI was a professed Catholic for years yet never fully embraced every idea that catholicism espoused. .
we share something in common then sir fer. i was brought up in a staunch catholic environment too. at the age of 8 i saw right through the bullsh1t and much to my mothers and grandfathers dissapointment i refused to attend the church ever again...and i never did. however, i always wondered about things.
the old saying 'seek and ye shall find' is worth taking note of.
i found it intersesting you have had 'mystical' experiences...i gather it was things that are unexplained such as 'gut feelings'?..you know, driving down the road and you just get a feeling there is a cop around the corner so you slow down a bit and sure enough the cop is there...or maybe you are building something and you reach into your apron and grab a handful of nails randomly only to discover you grabbed the exact amount of nails required? or maybe you were just about to do something slightly dodgy on your push bike when you were a kid and something in your mind tells you not to, but you ignore it and come to grief..knowing it would happen.
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seekea thats got nothing to do with being spiritual, thats you tapping in to your minds potential, the power of the unconcious while consoious i dont knw haw ta spell fark it
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For something unexplained there is always an explanation. Is that what your saying BC?
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*edited 10 Dec 2009 10:25
the minds potential huh bc?..hmmmm...
something else that cannot be scientifically explained..yet happens.
lets face it...there is a lot more going on than most are willing to accept...or that most have learnt.
it's been said that man lives in 3 dimesions...but we have radio waves, which is arguably a forth dimension...or you could call it vibration's.
vibrations of a certain frequency....whats to say there are no more vibrations of other freqency's than just ordinary radio and tv buzzing around?
i tell ya....the tin hat comes in mighty handy at times..lol.
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Originally posted by: sir fer
*edited 10 Dec 2009 08:15
OK Roy, you continue to assert these things, but I'm still not buying it, especially when you start trotting out "higher mental planes and beyond".
If something is true, it is true regardless of any personal aspect or any mystical sounding mumbo jumbo that may be brought out as "evidence". I have had *many* mystical experiences in my life, but none that could be ascribed to anything more than the product of my own psyche.
How do you prove to yourself that you exist ?
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I think that's called synchronicity seeka, Jung explained it via the collective unconscious.
Google surat shabd(a) yoga if you wanna know what I've seen 
Science cannot explain everything at the moment, it never could, of course there are phenomena that we are all aware of that science hasn't caught up with, but then at one time humanity didn't know what made the sun shine either.
it's been said that man lives in 3 dimesions...but we have radio waves, which is arguably a forth dimension...or you could call it vibration's.
Unfortunately seeka that is literally nonsense. Radio waves exist in 3d as well. What makes you say things like that is beyond me but really adds to my opinion that you have formed your worldview from bits and pieces you have collected over your life with no real coherence behind any of it.
vibrations of a certain frequency....whats to say there are no more vibrations of other freqency's than just ordinary radio and tv buzzing around?
Google "electromagnetic spectrum" and you'll find that "radio waves" or EM radiation exist all the way from a fraction of a Hertz up to high-energy gamma rays and cosmic rays from energetic space events (supernovae etc).
Originally posted by: Roy_Stewart
How do you prove to yourself that you exist?
I look in the mirror.
thanks, i'll look up the yogy thing later.
Originally posted by: sir fer
Google "electromagnetic spectrum" and you'll find that "radio waves" or EM radiation exist all the way from a fraction of a Hertz up to high-energy gamma rays and cosmic rays from energetic space events (supernovae etc).
Originally posted by: sir fer
Science cannot explain everything at the moment, it never could, of course there are phenomena that we are all aware of that science hasn't caught up with, but then at one time humanity didn't know what made the sun shine either.
so whats it to be?
to be or not to be?
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Originally posted by: sir ferOriginally posted by: Roy_Stewart
How do you prove to yourself that you exist?
I look in the mirror.
Logically speaking that proves nothing, as from an outsider's point of view everything you do or say could be a figment of my imagination.
So far you 'proof' of your own existence fails your own criteria as it is not publicly verifiable.
In spite of this you no doubt feel certain of your own existence? If so do you then feel that you are unjustified in believing that you exist ?
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Originally posted by: bionic chronic
seekea thats got nothing to do with being spiritual, thats you tapping in to your minds potential, the power of the unconcious while consoious i dont knw haw ta spell fark it
leave it to me.
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Originally posted by: sir fer
it's been said that man lives in 3 dimesions...but we have radio waves, which is arguably a forth dimension...or you could call it vibration's.
Unfortunately seeka that is literally nonsense. Radio waves exist in 3d as well. What makes you say things like that is beyond me but really adds to my opinion that you have formed your worldview from bits and pieces you have collected over your life with no real coherence behind any of it.
I don't share your impression.
My impression is that Seeka's life has achieved a coherence which is deeper than can be expressed on a keyboard, and that trying to bring his experience into a lower plane in order to communicate it inevitably leaves the essence 'lost in translation'
The radio waves point is a good one, as it is an example of energy which exists but cannot be seen.
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Originally posted by: Roy_Stewartwho would have thought you and seeker agreeing Roy. Im stunnedOriginally posted by: sir fer
it's been said that man lives in 3 dimesions...but we have radio waves, which is arguably a forth dimension...or you could call it vibration's.
Unfortunately seeka that is literally nonsense. Radio waves exist in 3d as well. What makes you say things like that is beyond me but really adds to my opinion that you have formed your worldview from bits and pieces you have collected over your life with no real coherence behind any of it.
I don't share your impression.
My impression is that Seeka's life has achieved a coherence which is deeper than can be expressed on a keyboard, and that trying to bring his experience into a lower plane in order to communicate it inevitably leaves the essence 'lost in translation'
The radio waves point is a good one, as it is an example of energy which exists but cannot be seen.
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at one time humanity didn't know what made the sun shine either.
Humanity as whole is still unaware of what makes the sun shine.
The current 'understanding' of what makes the sun shine is equivalent to saying that a car moves because the wheels turn around. . . it's only a superficial understanding at best.
The sun is the spiritual and intellectual head of our solar system, in short it is a sentient being.
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*edited 10 Dec 2009 17:48
Logically speaking that proves nothing, as from an outsider's point of view everything you do or say could be a figment of my imagination.
But is it a figment of mine? For light to be bouncing off me, then off the mirror and into my eyes, I must exist. Your baseless wordy assertions to the contrary notwithstanding.
My impression is that Seeka's life has achieved a coherence which is deeper than can be expressed on a keyboard, and that trying to bring his experience into a lower plane in order to communicate it inevitably leaves the essence 'lost in translation'
The radio waves point is a good one, as it is an example of energy which exists but cannot be seen.
Well whatever, he uses terms like "radio waves" when he clearly doesn't understand the nature of the phenomena, so I'll leave it to the reader to decide what the rest of his words mean. It certainly makes no sense to me. Why does it matter if radio waves cannot be seen? They can be *detected* independently of anybodys wishes which is witnessed by the spectacular success of wireless communication technology and have been well understood ever since the time of Heirich Hertz and James Clerk Maxwell. People like you talk a looot of sh1t and 99% of people are just not educated enough to know why what you speak is nonsense.
The current 'understanding' of what makes the sun shine is equivalent to saying that a car moves because the wheels turn around. . . it's only a superficial understanding at best.
what...utter...bollocks. How would you know? Have you done postgrad level solar science? I would suggest that what you ascribe to current science merely reflects your own meagre understanding. The reason the processes that power the sun have been reproduced on earth shows that the understanding is bit further along than you think.
The sun is the spiritual and intellectual head of our solar system, in short it is a sentient being.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry
...seriously, who told you that?
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Originally posted by: sir fer
*edited 10 Dec 2009 17:48Logically speaking that proves nothing, as from an outsider's point of view everything you do or say could be a figment of my imagination.
But is it a figment of mine? For light to be bouncing off me, then off the mirror and into my eyes, I must exist. Your baseless wordy assertions to the contrary notwithstanding.
You utterly fail to see the point, which is that you cannot prove to anyone but yourself that you exist: what I am experiencing as a post from a person could well be something else and I could be the only sentient being in the universe . . . . at least according to the usual assumption ( which you appear to have ) that if it can't be logically proven then it is not necessarily true
My impression is that Seeka's life has achieved a coherence which is deeper than can be expressed on a keyboard, and that trying to bring his experience into a lower plane in order to communicate it inevitably leaves the essence 'lost in translation'People like you talk a looot of sh1t and 99% of people are just not educated enough to know why what you speak is nonsense.
The radio waves point is a good one, as it is an example of energy which exists but cannot be seen.
When you come up with a reasonable reply let me know.
The current 'understanding' of what makes the sun shine is equivalent to saying that a car moves because the wheels turn around. . . it's only a superficial understanding at best.
what...utter...bollocks. How would you know? Have you done postgrad level solar science? I would suggest that what you ascribe to current science merely reflects your own meagre understanding. The reason the processes that power the sun have been reproduced on earth shows that the understanding is bit further along than you think.
Not so, it merely shows that the understanding has progressed to the points where some of the physical processes in the sun can be reproduced on a tiny scale.
The sun is the spiritual and intellectual head of our solar system, in short it is a sentient being.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry ...seriously, who told you that?
As usual the greatest obstacle to understanding which you have to overcome is your own mental rigidity.
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Originally posted by: brighton_pumpsOriginally posted by: Roy_Stewartwho would have thought you and seeker agreeing Roy. Im stunnedOriginally posted by: sir fer
it's been said that man lives in 3 dimesions...but we have radio waves, which is arguably a forth dimension...or you could call it vibration's.
Unfortunately seeka that is literally nonsense. Radio waves exist in 3d as well. What makes you say things like that is beyond me but really adds to my opinion that you have formed your worldview from bits and pieces you have collected over your life with no real coherence behind any of it.
I don't share your impression.
My impression is that Seeka's life has achieved a coherence which is deeper than can be expressed on a keyboard, and that trying to bring his experience into a lower plane in order to communicate it inevitably leaves the essence 'lost in translation'
The radio waves point is a good one, as it is an example of energy which exists but cannot be seen.
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It appears that you are easily stunned.
Better get the family brain cell back from the pawn shop mate you'll find it easier to get around.
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lol..now that was funny!
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*edited 10 Dec 2009 18:58
Originally posted by: sir fer
Well whatever, he uses terms like "radio waves" when he clearly doesn't understand the nature of the phenomena, so I'll leave it to the reader to decide what the rest of his words mean. It certainly makes no sense to me.
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you missed the point of my example. Roy understood what i meant, so no worries.
once you get your head around the fact that there are more dimensions than what science has so far *detected*, then you might understand what i was going on about.
*stupid edit thing*
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lol @ old hippie sc umbags talking about higher planes and science in the same sentence, fark off.
You know nothing; go to school, maybe even university, get an education and stop peddling your childish spiritual nonsense.
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rimma...very fitting.
mind if i just call you w@nka?
why don't you enlighten us then?..seeing as you seem to know it all.
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He thinks he's the result of a bunch of random atomic collisions, I can't agree but am sorely tempted to do so.
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the two internet conspiracy crackpots are still going at it
what did you use to detect your extra dimensions seeker? cali orange,durban poison or aghan jade?
The resident owner of a timeshared brain cell speaks out again using a popular cliche of the global low life anti intelligence brigade.
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Originally posted by: Roy_Stewartand to backup my point the avante garde car salesman strikes again
The resident owner of a timeshared brain cell speaks out again using a popular cliche of the global low life anti intelligence brigade.
Originally posted by: brighton_pumps
what did you use to detect your extra dimensions seeker? cali orange,durban poison or aghan jade?
non of the above bp. just sober personal experience's.
one things for sure, when i was your age, the thought of other dimensions was hard to comprehend.
maybe when you get a few more years under your belt & have learnt a bit more, you might experience the same...if you can manage to keep an open mind.
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** ouch **
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Originally posted by: seeka
when i was your age, the thought of other dimensions was hard to comprehend.
maybe when you get a few more years under your belt & have learnt a bit more, you might experience the same...if you can manage to keep an open mind.
I think there's slightly less than a decade between you and BP, Seeka.
Mind you, when I think of what I believed when I was 22 (10 years ago), I'm MORTIFIED. I want to go back and take back most everything I said. A parrot and a puppet was I.
Given that we don't only live once, one's real age is not available on the public records.
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Could you expand on that Roy?
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Originally posted by: dumbbell
I think there's slightly less than a decade between you and BP, Seeka.
Mind you, when I think of what I believed when I was 22 (10 years ago), I'm MORTIFIED. I want to go back and take back most everything I said. A parrot and a puppet was I.
you can learn a lot in 10 yrs db.
no point beating yaself up about what you used to think.
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*edited 11 Dec 2009 10:13
So you live life with regret wanting to go back in time and change it. Weak.
Originally posted by: seekabetter to beat yourself up about what u think now. Your getting good with this assumptions thing swellieOriginally posted by: dumbbell
I think there's slightly less than a decade between you and BP, Seeka.
Mind you, when I think of what I believed when I was 22 (10 years ago), I'm MORTIFIED. I want to go back and take back most everything I said. A parrot and a puppet was I.
you can learn a lot in 10 yrs db.
no point beating yaself up about what you used to think.
Hey Roy whats the truth about the hawaiian death threats?
Originally posted by: bionic chronic
*edited 11 Dec 2009 10:13
So you live life with regret wanting to go back in time and change it. Weak.
BC .. always looking ahead, never looking back ahe.
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Originally posted by: brighton_pumps
Your getting good with this assumptions thing swellie
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