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Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: oldscool
Ahah, spud. You beat me to it. I had written down some stuff last week about "The New World Order" and was going to post up a topic along the lines of "NWO would it be so bad?"
One government for the planet.
It'd have a lot of benefits as far as I can see.
I agree. Bring it on.
It's going to happen, and if you live long enough you'll live to regret it.
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My friend you can either ride with it or collide with it. I've already booked a seat on the NWO committee, so I'll be okay.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
fark you are so funny.
Originally posted by: oldscool
Don't you think we (humanity) could organise a democratic government?
Oldschool if you'd been following what's happening you'd know that all the moves toward global government have come hand in hand with the elimination of democratic processes in favour of appointed officials.
It's the death of democracy, although there will still be some democratic window dressing to lull the gullible.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: oldscool
Ahah, spud. You beat me to it. I had written down some stuff last week about "The New World Order" and was going to post up a topic along the lines of "NWO would it be so bad?"
One government for the planet.
It'd have a lot of benefits as far as I can see.
I agree. Bring it on.
It's going to happen, and if you live long enough you'll live to regret it.
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My friend you can either ride with it or collide with it. I've already booked a seat on the NWO committee, so I'll be okay.
Your attitude is known as 'Run with the hare and hunt with the hound' and it was always held up in my family as the epitome of spinelessness and ammoral behaviour.
So I sincerely hope that you are joking, otherwise we'll have to label you as the wrong sort of person.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
farkin aye.
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: oldscool
Ahah, spud. You beat me to it. I had written down some stuff last week about "The New World Order" and was going to post up a topic along the lines of "NWO would it be so bad?"
One government for the planet.
It'd have a lot of benefits as far as I can see.
I agree. Bring it on.
It's going to happen, and if you live long enough you'll live to regret it.
.
My friend you can either ride with it or collide with it. I've already booked a seat on the NWO committee, so I'll be okay.
Your attitude is known as 'Run with the hare and hunt with the hound' and it was always held up in my family as the epitome of spinelessness and ammoral behaviour.
So I sincerely hope that you are joking, otherwise we'll have to label you as the wrong sort of person.
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Incorrect.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
Originally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: oldscool
Ahah, spud. You beat me to it. I had written down some stuff last week about "The New World Order" and was going to post up a topic along the lines of "NWO would it be so bad?"
One government for the planet.
It'd have a lot of benefits as far as I can see.
I agree. Bring it on.
It's going to happen, and if you live long enough you'll live to regret it.
.
My friend you can either ride with it or collide with it. I've already booked a seat on the NWO committee, so I'll be okay.
Your attitude is known as 'Run with the hare and hunt with the hound' and it was always held up in my family as the epitome of spinelessness and ammoral behaviour.
So I sincerely hope that you are joking, otherwise we'll have to label you as the wrong sort of person.
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Incorrect.
Yes I'm glad that you see the error of your ways.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: oldscool
Ahah, spud. You beat me to it. I had written down some stuff last week about "The New World Order" and was going to post up a topic along the lines of "NWO would it be so bad?"
One government for the planet.
It'd have a lot of benefits as far as I can see.
I agree. Bring it on.
It's going to happen, and if you live long enough you'll live to regret it.
.
My friend you can either ride with it or collide with it. I've already booked a seat on the NWO committee, so I'll be okay.
Your attitude is known as 'Run with the hare and hunt with the hound' and it was always held up in my family as the epitome of spinelessness and ammoral behaviour.
So I sincerely hope that you are joking, otherwise we'll have to label you as the wrong sort of person.
.
Incorrect.
Yes I'm glad that you see the error of your ways.
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Nice one. I almost thought I Had you rarked again for a moment.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
mean
Originally posted by: oldscoolOriginally posted by: SNAP
someone needs to read animal farm. its crazy how people are so prepared to give up all their rights for the idea of security. in the process giving complete power to those who can do whatever they want with it
Animal Farm??? Yep, great little book having a poke at Stalinism.
So you think one world government would inevitably mean totalitarianism?
Why's that? Don't you think we (humanity) could organise a democratic government?
Shouldn't you have referenced Lord of the Flies instead?
are you happy with the north korea government? the american? or even our own? you would have zero control in who would be in power, maybe if they were feeling generous youd get to vote in some puppet.
what if they had complete control over everything you do with all the technology needed to do it.
would spud and oldscool both be keen for a chip in them? im guessing the probably wouldnt care to myuch. which is scary because it suggests we are getting close to the day you will be forced to have one.
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SNAP awards
I'm on the NWO payroll. You should join up SNAP. The benefits are considerable.
By the way, they have a list of all the people that are going to cop it when they take over completely. As their agent on this forum I have the power to decide who goes on this list. At the moment I'm undecided about you SNAP. It's time for you to seriously consider your future: Are you with us or are you with the terrorists?
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
Originally posted by: bionic chronic
*edited 10 Sep 2010 15:17
ok, jesus you are dumb.
If one government controls then other countries will lose most of their independence/sovereignty by subscribing to one big boss. power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. English empire did it somewhat to the Maori.
I have No Doubt your brain is just to stop your head from caving in BC
Wars are about people who wont give up their independence/sovereignty to another country/race so how the fu(k is a Unified monetary system going to do it without war ? not to mention there is no need as Capitalist globalisation has done the job quietly in the background while you guys were looking for 666 on your barcodes
To much imagination not enough common sense is where you conspiracy nuggets go belly up;
*Who would link their currency to an bankrupt US $ ?
*Who would link their capitalism system to a socialist system ?
*Big money has always manipulated government that is harder and more expensive with bigger government
*pundit narcissists like gates, buffet and co cannot work with others in forming a plutocracy their egos wont let them
if i'm wrong and i hope i am
bring on the revolution
my gun is loaded
time to play
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Originally posted by: ScootertrashOriginally posted by: bionic chronic
*edited 10 Sep 2010 15:17
ok, jesus you are dumb.
If one government controls then other countries will lose most of their independence/sovereignty by subscribing to one big boss. power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. English empire did it somewhat to the Maori.
I have No Doubt your brain is just to stop your head from caving in BC
Wars are about people who wont give up their independence/sovereignty to another country/race so how the fu(k is a Unified monetary system going to do it without war ?
War is part of the plan, and in case you hadn't noticed it's aready been happening for a while.
not to mention there is no need as Capitalist globalisation has done the job quietly in the background
Yes much of the work has been done, but it is not complete
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Wish they'd hurry up !
i'm interested to see what the big picture is
and i'm quite impatient 
New Can Be Good !
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
*edited 11 Sep 2010 15:57
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: oldscool
Don't you think we (humanity) could organise a democratic government?
Oldschool if you'd been following what's happening you'd know that all the moves toward global government have come hand in hand with the elimination of democratic processes in favour of appointed officials.
It's the death of democracy, although there will still be some democratic window dressing to lull the gullible.
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Examples being...?
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
sweet as guys.
Originally posted by: Scootertrash
To much imagination not enough common sense is where you conspiracy nuggets go belly up;
*Who would link their currency to an bankrupt US $ ?
*Who would link their capitalism system to a socialist system ?
Never let technicalities get in the way of a good conspiracy theory!
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
*edited 11 Sep 2010 16:06
Originally posted by: Scootertrash
Wish they'd hurry up !
i'm interested to see what the big picture is
and i'm quite impatient
New Can Be Good !
Surely the big picture is a whole lot of conspiracy theorists with nothing to do with their time, because they've been proven correct
I guess McDonalds will still be hiring.
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Ok you tell us what happening then.
Boredom causes people to google conspiracy so they can have a good laugh 
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Conspiracy theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
*edited 11 Sep 2010 17:06
A few billion people b1tching, complaining, having wars, going bankrupt or getting rich, fighting for power etc
Same story as a few thousand years ago, except more people and more high tech
If you think there's anything else going on - like a massive hidden conspiracy by shady figures itching to rule the world - let's see some evidence, instead of just the usual vague innuendo, sweeping unsupportable generalisations, and the internet equivalent of knowing winks that seem to be the extent of the argument so far.
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Originally posted by: dr_surf
*edited 11 Sep 2010 15:57Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: oldscool
Don't you think we (humanity) could organise a democratic government?
Oldschool if you'd been following what's happening you'd know that all the moves toward global government have come hand in hand with the elimination of democratic processes in favour of appointed officials.
It's the death of democracy, although there will still be some democratic window dressing to lull the gullible.
.
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Examples being...?
The European Union for example.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: dr_surf
*edited 11 Sep 2010 17:06
A few billion people b1tching, complaining, having wars, going bankrupt or getting rich, fighting for power etc
Same story as a few thousand years ago, except more people and more high tech
If you think there's anything else going on - like a massive hidden conspiracy by shady figures itching to rule the world - let's see some evidence, instead of just the usual vague innuendo, sweeping unsupportable generalisations, and the internet equivalent of knowing winks that seem to be the extent of the argument so far.
Would scores of the world's most powerful politicians stating publicly that one world government ruling the world is what they are working for, plus many of examples of the centralisation of political and economic power, the axing of democractic process in favour of appointed bureaucrats, the rapidly escalating erosion of personal rights and liberties on the basis of lies do ?
If so just open your eyes and see it as it's all around you.
In order to do that you will first have to remove the blinkers you are wearing.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: Spud
Conspiracy theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters.
People who can't separate the word 'conspiracy' from the word 'theory' due to brainwashing and/or obedience to George Bush are dung punching brown nosing types of the first order
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Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: dr_surf
*edited 11 Sep 2010 15:57Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: oldscool
Don't you think we (humanity) could organise a democratic government?
Oldschool if you'd been following what's happening you'd know that all the moves toward global government have come hand in hand with the elimination of democratic processes in favour of appointed officials.
It's the death of democracy, although there will still be some democratic window dressing to lull the gullible.
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Examples being...?
The European Union for example.
Ok... the European Union is a financial/political one, with the original rationale being the avoidance of the extreme nationalism that resulted in World War 1 and 2... but it is lead by a committee comprising the elected heads of state of each member country. Each of the member states had votes in order to determine whether the people wanted their country to join the EU.
Where is the elimation of democratic processes here?
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: Spud
Conspiracy theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters.
People who can't separate the word 'conspiracy' from the word 'theory' due to brainwashing and/or obedience to George Bush are dung punching brown nosing types of the first order
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Okay then: Conspiracy...wait for it! wait for it!... theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters and are also dung punching brown nosing types of the first order.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: dr_surf
*edited 11 Sep 2010 17:06
A few billion people b1tching, complaining, having wars, going bankrupt or getting rich, fighting for power etc
Same story as a few thousand years ago, except more people and more high tech
If you think there's anything else going on - like a massive hidden conspiracy by shady figures itching to rule the world - let's see some evidence, instead of just the usual vague innuendo, sweeping unsupportable generalisations, and the internet equivalent of knowing winks that seem to be the extent of the argument so far.
Would scores of the world's most powerful politicians stating publicly that one world government ruling the world is what they are working for, plus many of examples of the centralisation of political and economic power, the axing of democractic process in favour of appointed bureaucrats, the rapidly escalating erosion of personal rights and liberties on the basis of lies do ?
If so just open your eyes and see it as it's all around you.
In order to do that you will first have to remove the blinkers you are wearing.
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WHO are the powerful politicians stating that they want a one world government? My google search on this netted nothing but a ton of inter-referencing conspiracy websites
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: dr_surf
*edited 11 Sep 2010 17:06
A few billion people b1tching, complaining, having wars, going bankrupt or getting rich, fighting for power etc
Same story as a few thousand years ago, except more people and more high tech
If you think there's anything else going on - like a massive hidden conspiracy by shady figures itching to rule the world - let's see some evidence, instead of just the usual vague innuendo, sweeping unsupportable generalisations, and the internet equivalent of knowing winks that seem to be the extent of the argument so far.
Would scores of the world's most powerful politicians stating publicly that one world government ruling the world is what they are working for, plus many of examples of the centralisation of political and economic power, the axing of democractic process in favour of appointed bureaucrats, the rapidly escalating erosion of personal rights and liberties on the basis of lies do ?
If so just open your eyes and see it as it's all around you.
In order to do that you will first have to remove the blinkers you are wearing.
.
Examples of appointed bureaucarats being?
Personal rights and liberties eroded being?
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
*edited 11 Sep 2010 18:08
Originally posted by: dr_surfOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: dr_surf
*edited 11 Sep 2010 17:06
A few billion people b1tching, complaining, having wars, going bankrupt or getting rich, fighting for power etc
Same story as a few thousand years ago, except more people and more high tech
If you think there's anything else going on - like a massive hidden conspiracy by shady figures itching to rule the world - let's see some evidence, instead of just the usual vague innuendo, sweeping unsupportable generalisations, and the internet equivalent of knowing winks that seem to be the extent of the argument so far.
Would scores of the world's most powerful politicians stating publicly that one world government ruling the world is what they are working for, plus many of examples of the centralisation of political and economic power, the axing of democractic process in favour of appointed bureaucrats, the rapidly escalating erosion of personal rights and liberties on the basis of lies do ?
If so just open your eyes and see it as it's all around you.
In order to do that you will first have to remove the blinkers you are wearing.
.
Examples of appointed bureaucarats being?
Personal rights and liberties eroded being?
I'm not your nurse maid, I gave you one example ( European Union ) find others yourself !
If you can't come up with an example of personal liberties being eroded then you are either brain dead or working unwittingly or not for them.
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WHO are the powerful politicians stating that they want a one world government? My google search on this netted nothing but a ton of inter-referencing conspiracy websites
What a circular argument . . . any website which shows politicians caling for a one world government or new world order is deemed to be a conspiracy website and therefore incorrect.
It doesn't get stupider than that, and yet people trust you with their health ?
There's no hope for idiots like you in my opinion.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: Spud
Conspiracy theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters.
People who can't separate the word 'conspiracy' from the word 'theory' due to brainwashing and/or obedience to George Bush are dung punching brown nosing types of the first order
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Okay then: Conspiracy...wait for it! wait for it!... theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters and are also dung punching brown nosing types of the first order.
You couldn't quite manage it Spud.
I suggest that mind freeing exercises will help, please start by smashing your TV with a sledgehammer.
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Classic! Indeed this is a circular argument - you post generalisations, I post questions requesting specifics, you post more generalisations.
Lets make this simple:
Can you name one powerful politician who has called for a one world government?
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Originally posted by: dr_surfOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: dr_surf
*edited 11 Sep 2010 15:57Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: oldscool
Don't you think we (humanity) could organise a democratic government?
Oldschool if you'd been following what's happening you'd know that all the moves toward global government have come hand in hand with the elimination of democratic processes in favour of appointed officials.
It's the death of democracy, although there will still be some democratic window dressing to lull the gullible.
.
.
Examples being...?
The European Union for example.
Ok... the European Union is a financial/political one, with the original rationale being the avoidance of the extreme nationalism that resulted in World War 1 and 2... but it is lead by a committee comprising the elected heads of state of each member country. Each of the member states had votes in order to determine whether the people wanted their country to join the EU.
Where is the elimation of democratic processes here?
The head of the European Union is appointed not elected.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: dr_surf
Classic! Indeed this is a circular argument - you post generalisations, I post questions requesting specifics, you post more generalisations.
In fact your argument is circular.
Because of your circular argument whereby any site which posts evidence of the move toward global government is automatically deemed to be incorrect because it's a conspiracy site it is absolutely pointless posting any evidence.
I don't give a f*ck whether you 'get it' or not, as at the end of the day some people will be on the side of the NWO ( like Spud) regardless of what they do and some will not.
From my point of view you are a lost cause.
Lets make this simple.
Can you name one powerful politician who has called for a one world government?
New world order/one world government/global government are synonymous.
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Semantics Roy.
The council (elected officials) vote to choose someone who is ratified by parliament (more elected officials).
Again - can you name one powerful politician who has called for a one world government?
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Roy it is just a rark thread, so whatever you say, whether you are right or not, will be discounted. Just leave it, lets just have the last laugh. Farkin clones of the first order aye Roy.
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: dr_surf
Classic! Indeed this is a circular argument - you post generalisations, I post questions requesting specifics, you post more generalisations.
In fact your argument is circular.
Because of your circular argument whereby any site which posts evidence of the move toward global government is automatically deemed to be incorrect because it's a conspiracy site it is absolutely pointless posting any evidence.
I don't give a f*ck whether you 'get it' or not, as at the end of the day some people will be on the side of the NWO ( like Spud) regardless of what they do and some will not.
From my point of view you are a lost cause.
Lets make this simple.
Can you name one powerful politician who has called for a one world government?
New world order/one world government/global government are synonymous.
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My, hasn't this been a rapidly evolving argument? We seem to have gone stright into personal abuse and and skipped the grammatical correction and 'straw man' stages.
All I would like to see is some shred of evidence to back up your claims, beyond vague sound bites of propaganda from conspiracy theory websites.
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
*edited 11 Sep 2010 18:31
Originally posted by: dr_surf
Semantics Roy.
The council (elected officials) vote to choose someone who is ratified by parliament (more elected officials).
The head of he European Union is appointed not elected.
That is not democratic.
The European Union is a huge centralisation of political power and has an appointed head.
You are full of sh*t
Again - can you name one powerful politician who has called for a one world government?
As mentioned in the last post 'New world order' , 'one world government' and 'global government' are synonymous.
If you can't find an example of those phrases being used and called for by a powerful politician then you are not trying. . . do it yourself I am not your personal secretary !!!
The real reason why you won't do it yourself is so that you can use the usual tactic of suckering your opponent into posting so that you can then use your circular argument again by saying that the source is unacceptable.
If you do the research yourself then that invalid but politically effective tactic isn't available to you.
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Be Ye Perfect ! ..
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: Spud
Conspiracy theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters.
People who can't separate the word 'conspiracy' from the word 'theory' due to brainwashing and/or obedience to George Bush are dung punching brown nosing types of the first order
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Okay then: Conspiracy...wait for it! wait for it!... theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters and are also dung punching brown nosing types of the first order.
You couldn't quite manage it Spud.
I suggest that mind freeing exercises will help, please start by smashing your TV with a sledgehammer.
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That wouldn't make any difference. I don't watch TV.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
*edited 11 Sep 2010 18:33
Originally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: Spud
Conspiracy theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters.
People who can't separate the word 'conspiracy' from the word 'theory' due to brainwashing and/or obedience to George Bush are dung punching brown nosing types of the first order
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Okay then: Conspiracy...wait for it! wait for it!... theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters and are also dung punching brown nosing types of the first order.
You couldn't quite manage it Spud.
I suggest that mind freeing exercises will help, please start by smashing your TV with a sledgehammer.
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That wouldn't make any difference. I don't watch TV.
Use a neighbour's TV instead.
It's the smashing that counts.
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All I would like to see is some shred of evidence to back up your claims, beyond vague sound bites of propaganda from conspiracy theory websites.
There you go again using the same old tired circular argument.
When you have understood that attacking the source is an invalid mode of argument then you will have made some progress. . . until then you will remain blind as appears to be your wish.
There is no 'straw man stage' i point out such argumentative fallacies if and when they occur. .
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Originally posted by: bionic chronic
Roy it is just a rark thread, so whatever you say, whether you are right or not, will be discounted. Just leave it, lets just have the last laugh. Farkin clones of the first order aye Roy.
Stupidity is hard to ignore but you could be right there, one of their tactics is to waste our energy.
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people who choose to be ignorant are stupid. Don't sweat it.
Originally posted by: Roy_Stewart
*edited 11 Sep 2010 18:31Originally posted by: dr_surf
Semantics Roy.
The council (elected officials) vote to choose someone who is ratified by parliament (more elected officials).
The head of he European Union is appointed not elected.
That is not democratic.
The European Union is a huge centralisation of political power and has an appointed head.
You are full of sh*t
Again - can you name one powerful politician who has called for a one world government?
As mentioned in the last post 'New world order' , 'one world government' and 'global government' are synonymous.
If you can't find an example of those phrases being used and called for by a powerful politician then you are not trying. . . do it yourself I am not your personal secretary !!!
The real reason why you won't do it yourself is so that you can use the usual tactic of suckering your opponent into posting so that you can then use your circular argument again by saying that the source is unacceptable.
If you do the research yourself then that invalid but politically effective tactic isn't available to you.
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I repeat - again - can you name one powerful politician who has called for a one world government?
Based on your claims it shouldn't be that difficult
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Or are you going to stick to the "I am not your private secretary, do your own research" line in order to avoid having to put your money where your mouth is?
As for the EU - where is the evidence that it is part of a move towards global government/NWO?
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Farkup you h0mo, you made up your mind so jog on. Watch the Obama deception and grow a brain.
Originally posted by: dr_surf
I repeat - again - can you name one powerful politician who has called for a one world government?
Based on your claims it shouldn't be that difficult
Do it yourself, I'm not your secretary.
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Originally posted by: Roy_Stewart
*edited 11 Sep 2010 18:33Originally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: SpudOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: Spud
Conspiracy theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters.
People who can't separate the word 'conspiracy' from the word 'theory' due to brainwashing and/or obedience to George Bush are dung punching brown nosing types of the first order
.
Okay then: Conspiracy...wait for it! wait for it!... theories are for limp wristed shirt lifters and are also dung punching brown nosing types of the first order.
You couldn't quite manage it Spud.
I suggest that mind freeing exercises will help, please start by smashing your TV with a sledgehammer.
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That wouldn't make any difference. I don't watch TV.
Use a neighbour's TV instead.
It's the smashing that counts.
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Sweet. I'll pick one up from the tip then.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
just do the smashing at the tip, no one minds at all
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Political Correctness
and a Absurd Fear
of Being Found not having any facts
Prevent some people answering
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Be Content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you. lao tzu
cool you won.
Originally posted by: Surfscab
Political Correctness
and a Absurd Fear
of Being Found not having any facts
Prevent some people answering
not correct
I don't have enough respect for the Quack's intelligence to bother presenting him with anything.
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*edited 11 Sep 2010 23:28
BC -
http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/alex-jones/the-obama-deception/ [conspiracyscience.com]
I'm not going to watch the Obama Deception - it would be 114 minutes of my life I'd never get back.
My issues are with Roy's statements like:
"Would scores of the world's most powerful politicians stating publicly that one world government ruling the world is what they are working for, plus many of examples of the centralisation of political and economic power, the axing of democractic process in favour of appointed bureaucrats, the rapidly escalating erosion of personal rights and liberties on the basis of lies do ?"
A statement like this is pretty out there and as far as I'm concerned if someone is going to say sh1t like this they need to have some evidence to back up their claims.
I think Roy's example of the EU is not a good one - the original idea behind the EU was to prevent war:
"As distinct from ideas of federation, confederation or customs union the main development in Europe depends on a supranational foundation to make war unthinkable and materially impossible and reinforce democracy enunciated by Robert Schuman and other leaders in the Europe Declaration. The principle was at the heart of the European Coal and Steel Community in the Treaty of Paris (1951), following the "Schuman Declaration" and the later the Treaties of Rome establishing the European Economic Community and the European Atomic Energy Community. Both these bodies are now part of the European Union, which was formed under that name in 1993."
To me the thought of the EU, plus the other stuff Roy talks about, being part of some global conspiracy is inherently ludicrous. Of course it's not out of the question though - that's why I'd like to see Roy provide some evidence for his claims, e.g naming one of the 'scores' of politicians , or more importantly, some evidence tying this stuff together into a conspiracy that, according to Roy, was around as far back as the time of JFK.
I'm not going to spend hours researching this stuff, because I'm not the person making outlandish claims.
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Originally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: Surfscab
Political Correctness
and a Absurd Fear
of Being Found not having any facts
Prevent some people answering
not correct
I don't have enough respect for the Quack's intelligence to bother presenting him with anything.
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How very convenient Roy.
Insults do not constitute an argument - just more proof that you have no evidence to back up your outlandish statements.
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Originally posted by: dr_surfOriginally posted by: Roy_StewartOriginally posted by: Surfscab
Political Correctness
and a Absurd Fear
of Being Found not having any facts
Prevent some people answering
not correct
I don't have enough respect for the Quack's intelligence to bother presenting him with anything.
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How very convenient Roy.
Insults do not constitute an argument
Now where did I suggest that I had presented an argument ?
With illogical people like you there's no point.
- just more proof that you have no evidence to back up your outlandish statements.
Lol squared at that one it's not logically possible to prove that no proof exists. As the saying goes absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Of course in reality there's plenty of evidence which you could find all by your weeny self without me to hold your hand but you won't see it because you don't want to see it.
Now p!ss off and pop a pill a something you stupid quack !
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*edited 11 Sep 2010 23:44
Originally posted by: dr_surf
*edited 11 Sep 2010 23:28
BC -
http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/alex-jones/the-obama-deception/ [conspiracyscience.com]
I'm not going to watch the Obama Deception - it would be 114 minutes of my life I'd never get back.
Says the man who expects other people to run around collecting evidence for him. . he won't even look at it !
My issues are with Roy's statements like:
"Would scores of the world's most powerful politicians stating publicly that one world government ruling the world is what they are working for, plus many of examples of the centralisation of political and economic power, the axing of democractic process in favour of appointed bureaucrats, the rapidly escalating erosion of personal rights and liberties on the basis of lies do ?"
A statement like this is pretty out there and as far as I'm concerned if someone is going to say sh1t like this they need to have some evidence to back up their claims.
Unfortunately for you the author doesn't give a rat's &rse what you think.
You have issues that you haven't diagnosed yet by the way, better upgrade your radar.
I think Roy's example of the EU is not a good one - the original idea behind the EU was to prevent war:
To me the thought of the EU, plus the other stuff Roy talks about, being part of some global conspiracy is inherently ludicrous. Of course it's not out of the question though - that's why I'd like to see Roy provide some evidence for his claims, e.g naming one of the 'scores' of politicians , or more importantly, some evidence tying this stuff together into a conspiracy that, according to Roy, was around as far back as the time of JFK.
Do your own frigging research, as I mentioned previously you don't accept evidence of conspiracies because they come from conspiracy sites, since that is true by definition, you are doomed to fail to see any evidence of a conspiracy, ever.
So you are basically stuffed.
I'm not going to spend hours researching this stuff
That's really interesting
Just remain as an ignorant quack with the logic of a pre menstrual IHC woman and you'll no doubt continue to be happy.
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Roy, my issue is not with The Obama Deception, conspiracy websites, or anti-conspiracy websites. You can always find something on the internet to support an argument.
I'd rather hear it from you.
Can YOU justify any of these statements:
It's the death of democracy, although there will still be some democratic window dressing to lull the gullible.
"War is part of the plan"(whose/what plan!?!)
"scores of the world's most powerful politicians stating publicly that one world government ruling the world is what they are working for" (who? Obama? Putin? Brown? who?)
"the rapidly escalating erosion of personal rights and liberties on the basis of lies"
"New world order' , 'one world government' and 'global government' are synonymous" (really? as far as I can see it 'global government' is a political theory with good intentions (even if it turns out to be flawed) whereas NWO is global RULE i.e Obama Deception/Dan Brown stuff)
To me this stuff defies common sense.
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Originally posted by: Roy_Stewart
Just remain as an ignorant quack with the logic of a pre menstrual IHC woman and you'll no doubt continue to be happy.
This just gets better and better
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .
Originally posted by: Surfscab
Political Correctness
and a Absurd Fear
of Being Found not having any facts
Prevent some people answering
"....the logic of a pre menstrual IHC woman"
Uh... I think political correctness just went out the window!
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you .