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911 conspiracy debunked?
http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-two/ [conspiracyscience.com]
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Chairman of the sub 1000
Anyone who thinks that the three buildings were destroyed without a conspiracy ( i.e. more than one person involved )is an idiot.
ALL the theories regarding what happened are conspiracy theories, even the official one. The idea that only some of the theories are conspiracy theories is bunkum and is part of the misinformation campaign.
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well of course there was more than one terrorist so yeah they would have conspired to destroy the trade center
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
Well that proves it, at least in the starch head's mind.
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Originally posted by: Roy_Stewart
Well that proves it, at least in the starch head's mind.
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Commodore Spud, Second in command to the Commander in Chief of the Sub 1000 armed forces. Sub 1000 committee secretary. Possibly the head of the Sub 1000 Secret Police. Former Surf.Co Official Rark Judge.
You would have to have the balls the size of a prehistoric whales to down two buildings in central new york to validate a war for oil ploy. my first thought when i was watching the news and (for once) the media was urging caution in assigning blame for the attack was, westeners value thier own skins too much to mount a suicide attack of that scale...
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two weeks to go....
Ron Paul Planned it ! 
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Originally posted by: Mr Statik
You would have to have the balls the size of a prehistoric whales to down two buildings in central new york to validate a war for oil ploy. my first thought when i was watching the news and (for once) the media was urging caution in assigning blame for the attack was, westeners value thier own skins too much to mount a suicide attack of that scale...
WTF
Prehistoric Whales Did it
Their whale skins are worth lots
Did Alex Jones tell you that statik ? !
#*"Sounds plausible" thinks PFS*#
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Be Content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you. lao tzu
im not sure what happened with the twin towers, but i certainly dont think we have been told the total truth.
i find it odd to think that people think its so unbeleviable that (for example) the u.s might have known about the attack to come and let it occur for political gain because its just so unethical or something...
humans have done far worse throughout history, i can imagine a lot of americans believing that the death of a thousand is ok if it benefits the whole world, or at least the general american population.
again i dont have a theory as such about what happened but to discredit a lot of theories based on being to "crazy" is silly
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Ron Paul planned it
to back his run for president next election 
Michael Jackson will be his surprise running mate 
But i've let enough slip already ....time to unleash the frogs of War
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Putting aside the 911 twin towers conspiracy theory...even a skeptic of such ideas would have to say that its pretty convenient how its all panned out for the US, with regard to giving themselves a green light to invade a few countries, and generally create a climate of fear which has helped them surpress the populus.
And become hated by the whole planet 
yep that plan is working well
suppress the populace?
crack had done that long ago
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Be Content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you. lao tzu
dnt think the patroit act would have been passed without it
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Originally posted by: Surfscab
And become hated by the whole planet
yep that plan is working well
suppress the populace?
crack had done that long ago
good point- but as I was being iris scaned and thumb printed as I headed through US Immigration the other week I thought to myself- this is a bit f*cked up, and big brother-esque
Did they body scan you 2020 ?
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The Pentagon was not hit by a 757. Three buildings collapsed, not two. The twin towers were designed to withstand being hit by a number of 747s and not collapse. The Pentagon would also have to be one of the most guarded buildings on the planet would it not? So where is the security footage of it when it was hit as well.
Quite so.
One of the suspect facts surrounding the collapse of building 7 was that the collapse was announced on TV in the UK 20 minutesbefore it happened.
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Originally posted by: Roy_Stewart
Did they body scan you 2020 ?
Yep-Iris and thumb print scan... I was travelling under my "civilian passport" though so they ddin't know that 2020 has slipped into their country- take that homeland security
Originally posted by: GrindmasterV2
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zz top rules c0ck
Yes,the twin towers were designed to withstand aircraft hits and how does a building hundreds of metres away drop when no plane/fire is any where near it?They said one level dropped from floor to floor taking each lower floor out-impossible to shear every single bolt of thousands at the same time,floor by floor.At freefall speed its only possible with demolition explosives.And New Zealand rushed in a terrorist policy like the patriot act.Why?
Wikileaks proves the NWO Conspiracy Theory to be paranoid delusions
USof A can't keep anything secret 
Look out for Wako Jacko's Resurrection Dec 24 2012 when all the Conspiracy freaks will rapture and ascend for a chat with Nostradamus.
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Be Content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you. lao tzu
Originally posted by: Maddog2
Yes,the twin towers were designed to withstand aircraft hits and how does a building hundreds of metres away drop when no plane/fire is any where near it?They said one level dropped from floor to floor taking each lower floor out-impossible to shear every single bolt of thousands at the same time,floor by floor.At freefall speed its only possible with demolition explosives.And New Zealand rushed in a terrorist policy like the patriot act.Why?
Thosw who can't see this have lobotomised themselves in order to stay on what they se as the winning side. . more fool them.
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Too True
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Originally posted by: Jabes
http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/part-two/ [conspiracyscience.com]
"At this time, no Wikipedia articles mention such a transaction except the General Ahmed article.."
wtf? wikipedia? lol..
i could go on debunking your debunker...but after reading the first few lines obviously he's a naive nutbar who relies on an editable site for his proof.
Originally posted by: Jabes
well of course there was more than one terrorist so yeah they would have conspired to destroy the trade center
and of course this was all organised by a guy living in a cave with a donkey, a cb radio, a rocket launcher and a vid cam.
get a clue Jabes.
Boeing themselves (and numerous pilots) have said that all 3 planes(wtc1&2 / pentagon) flew an impossible flightpath. It's impossible for those planes to pull of those maneuvers without some interference with the onboard computers. this is not just a case of 'flicking a switch' to 'manual control'.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/american_77_hijack_impossible.html [pilotsfor911truth.org]
http://www.l911t.com/ [l911t.com]
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?page_id=2 [firefightersfor911truth.org]
finally,
No Politics, No Conspiracy Theory, just Facts IN Evidence from the crime scene...i'd like to see the debunkers debunk these FACTS.
http://csi911.info/ [csi911.info]
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I think the debunking theory of this website www.conspriracyscience.com [conspiracyscience.com]debunks itself. At least in the respect of the Pentagon. Check the video [judicialwatch.org] it links to. Check the small trail of white smoke trailing the object just before it hits the Pentagon and explodes. Is someone trying to tell me that this is a 757? Please!!
can't watch vids the mo lynic(dial up).
i agree, the official report of the pentagon attack is a crock. a 757 did not hit the pentagon. not only is it an impossibility for a commercial plane to fly the path the official report tells, even though they first chose a north route then changed to a southern route. The facts from the evidence at the crime scene show no evidence of a commercial aircraft.
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Being that it is likely that the Pentagon is one of the most heavily guarded buildings on the planet, security cameras would have captured exactly what it was that hit the Pentagon. My question now is, where are those security tapes?
*edited 16 Aug 2010 20:24
not hard to answer that one. f b i were on the spot within seconds..funny that. tapes were confiscated from service stations, hotels etc..all with a short space of time after the attack, almost as if they knew something was going to happen.
however, they failed to retrieve the tape from a guy who was pulling out of a servo at the time, a guy who was testing his new vidcam....
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Originally posted by: Scootertrash
Too True
thats a bit inland
If this video [disclose.tv] doesn't prove that the Pentagon was not hit by a 757, then I don't know what does.
Dont worry lynic when your old and wrinkly you can say I told you so.
*edited 16 Aug 2010 20:49
lol, in that case..i told ya so..
interesting that some ask "why kill 3k of your own peeps?", well the us had no problem killing 60k-70k of their own boys(mostly teenagers) when they sent them to certain death in vietnam...whats another 3ooo?
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Those who follow the evil ones don't care about evidence.
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Originally posted by: seeka
*edited 16 Aug 2010 20:49
lol, in that case..i told ya so..
interesting that some ask "why kill 3k of your own peeps?", well the us had no problem killing 60k-70k of their own boys(mostly teenagers) when they sent them to certain death in vietnam...whats another 3ooo?
That question also makes the extremely childish assumption that it's nation vs nation, when in reality it's good vs evil.
Also it's a fact that those who practice the dark arts routinely sacrifice their own as well as sacrificing others. It's par for the course.
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..and of course it all helps in the quest for depopulation.
our own leader at the moment is attempting to lower the deep souths population by transferring local neurosurgery to chch. in some cases this is over 6 hrs drive away. so, smack your head in and you can forget about the 'golden hr', may as well organise a funeral director.
oh yeah, while i'm at it, check out what b gates has to say about vaccines..he goes on a bit at the beginning, but after a coupla minutes he gets to the nitty gritty
Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are Used for Human Depopulation....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqAGasF6Hfo&feature=related [youtube.com]
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still want that flu jab?
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got a daughter? gunna let her get the cervical jab? even though it's a sexually transmitted disease and your daughter may be only 8 yrs old.....
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I saw a bloke on Youtube who said:
" let them bring their needle, I'll bring my .45 and we'll see who makes the bigger hole "
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when your so full you have to down size..Billion Gates is a fat bastard,just ask his nanny.
whats up with the 11 year old injection ?my girl is agianst it Iam lost on that call
*edited 17 Aug 2010 10:55
Originally posted by: seeka
can't watch vids the mo lynic(dial up).
That is strange Seeka you never have Broadband...
Are you NZ's Wikileaks Connection ?
Don't Confirm Here
PM me
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
wtf are you on scooter? apart from a scooter..
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statik has the scary red flame skull avy.
mine is the tin hat guy with blue thermo nukes.
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..and a tasteful tie and suit
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Originally posted by: lynic
The Pentagon was not hit by a 757. Three buildings collapsed, not two. The twin towers were designed to withstand being hit by a number of 747s and not collapse.
This is the kind of uninformed blind acceptance of bullsh1t that makes these theories perpetuate.
When the World Trade Centre was designed in the early 1960's the largest commercial aircraft was a Boeing 707. Boeing 747's hadn't even been thought of and didn't come into service until 1969. The buildings were designed to withstand a collision from a 707. Although it was assumed the aircraft would be trying to avoid a collision, not aiming for a direct hit.
Do you homework before you blindly accept this bollcks FFS....
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Wait For The Ricochet
Sorry seeka
Question was directed at you
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Originally posted by: 2020
I find its tiresome as well...seems to be the same few dudes grinding the same old axe...personal issues of their own I suspect.
Too True
And nothing to do with Nz
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In the world there is nothing more submissive and weak than water. Yet for attacking that which is hard and strong nothing can surpass it. Lao Tzu
Originally posted by: oldscoolOriginally posted by: lynic
The Pentagon was not hit by a 757. Three buildings collapsed, not two. The twin towers were designed to withstand being hit by a number of 747s and not collapse.
This is the kind of uninformed blind acceptance of bullsh1t that makes these theories perpetuate.
When the World Trade Centre was designed in the early 1960's the largest commercial aircraft was a Boeing 707. Boeing 747's hadn't even been thought of and didn't come into service until 1969. The buildings were designed to withstand a collision from a 707. Although it was assumed the aircraft would be trying to avoid a collision, not aiming for a direct hit.
Do you homework before you blindly accept this bollcks FFS....
It's you who are blind oldschool.
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*edited 17 Aug 2010 11:16
It's you who have lobotimised yourself.
You didn't even think to question lynics post as to what the buildings were designed to withstand or find out when Boing 747's were designed
Idiot....
edit for spelling
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*edited 17 Aug 2010 14:32
Originally posted by: oldscool
*edited 17 Aug 2010 11:16
It's you who have lobotimised yourself.
You didn't even think to question lynics post as to what the buildings were designed to withstand or find out when Boing 747's were designed
Idiot....
edit for spelling
Is the difference between a 707 and a 747 that significant when it comes to hitting a building? Both have similar cruising speeds but I'm not sure about the weight of each plane. You also failed to mention the Pentagon which was quite clearly not hit by a 757. Building no.7 which was relatively unscathed, collapsed when two buildings closer to the twin towers did not. News reports of Federal Agents finding suspicous looking devices in the twin towers. A van containing explosives in the basement of one of the twin towers.
707, 747, 757...so what? a commercial plane is a commercial plane...typical strawman argument. fact remains wtc1&2 were demolished as planned, the facts in evidence at the crime scene point to no other scenario.
as for wtc7. well according to the official report we now have a situation where a whole multi story concrete building can fall (at freefall acceleration, ie: NO RESISTANCE as confirmed by nist) all due to an office fire..tui anyone? if this was the case then how come in the last 10 yrs no steps have been taken to check every other concrete building in the west and change the codes so an office fire doesn't drop another building? hmmmm..
Originally posted by: Scootertrash
Sorry seeka
Question was directed at you
yes, it would appear that way scooter. truth is i have a 3GB per month deal. unfortunatly the kids seem to suck this quota up in the first 2 weeks of the month playing online games. so i get to pay for their fun and then get left the dregs of dial up. the things we do..
and no..i have nothing to do with wikileaks.
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there were 767's
i reckon the plane size would be significant as
the heaviest 707 is 66,406kg
the LIGHTEST 747 is 162,400kg
biggest wing span 707 is 44m
smallest wing span 747 is 59m
body width 3.6m
vs 6.1
bigger fuel loads bigger planes and this is going off the smallest 747 and the biggest 707
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it was two 767's very close specs
.... here we go again... what is about 911 that get everyone so excited??
The real 911 conspiracy in my mind is not so much the events of 911, but how they were manipulated to justify the invasion of Iraq and Afgansistan...... how North Korea got let off the hook is anyones guess.... presumably there will be another (real or imagined) homeland scare sometime in the future to justify the annaliation of he last remaining axsis of evil.
video footage clearly show both buildings did withstand the impacts. all the onboard fuel was used up in the initial explosions and the fires were abating as proved by the smoke and lack of flame. then all of a sudden both buildings fell in the exact same manner...like i said numerous times before..the facts in evidence at the crime scene point to no other scenario other than a planned demo.
http://csi911.info/ [csi911.info]
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Originally posted by: jelly
it was two 767's very close specs
except that the plane that hit the second tower wasn't a 767. measurements from photo's and video show this.
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i dont really care 2020 but its fun to get them all going
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